On Sat, Oct 25, 2008, William L. Maltby wrote: > >On Sat, 2008-10-25 at 10:17 -0500, David G. Mackay wrote: >> <snip> > >> Then came CANDE, TD8xx terminals, and editing on your head-per-track >> disk. Ah for the good old days, when men were men, and memory upgrades >> involved fork lifts. >I tried to stay out of this thread, I really did. But the "forklift" >reference hooked me. > >Circa 1971/2(?), we had an IBM S360/30 with 64K (that's right, "K", "M") >bytes of "core" (back then, no simms, dimms, ...). Running IBM DOS, we >had three partitons going, 1 bg, 2 fg. It was decided that an >aftermarket upgrade would allow us to consolidate the two foreground >functions into one and use two background partitions for batch >production processing. > >The aftermarket expansion was bought and took us up to a "whopping" 96KB >of "core" memory. The expansion unit (best I can recall) was about 5.5' >x 8' x 3', or 132 cubic feet. 8-O > >Anyway, a forklift took it off the truck. And large hand pallet jack was >used to roll it across the raised flooring. > >It did the job too. It was several years before we upgraded to a S360/50 >with 512K (IIRC). And our Burroughs B-3500 would run circles around the 360/50. The Burroughs had a whopping 200KB of memory, ran an average of 20 jobs in the mix, and didn't require 40 JCL cards to compile and run a one line Hello World FORTRAN program. Burroughs invented virtual memory in the early 60s in their large systems allowing them to run large programs in small memory. When IBM invented thrashing, called it virtual memory, the minimum memory requirements to run it was 1MB requiring major updgrades to support it. IBM never wrote a line of code that was not designed to sell more hardware. Bringing this back to Linux, at that time IBM occupied the place of honor that Microsoft has now with an effective monopoly, a cumbersome and inefficient system requiring an army of support people to keep it running, and required constant patching. Bill -- INTERNET: bill@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC URL: http://www.celestial.com/ PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way Voice: (206) 236-1676 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820 Fax: (206) 232-9186 Find out just what people will submit to, and you have found out the exact amount of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them; and these will continue until they are resisted with either words or blows, or both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress. -- Frederick Douglass.