Glenn wrote:
At 09:38 AM 7/1/2008, you wrote:
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 7:44 AM, Tony Wicks
<<mailto:tonyw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>tonyw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
I would like to add something, as a South African citizen. South
Africa, is NOT part of Africa for that matter, it's a republic on
it's own. It's almost like saying "Let's ban America, cause someone
in Mexico spammed me". South Africa, which is on the 196/8 range does
a LOT of business overseas in many countries, and I do want to warn
that you could loose a lot of good business due to this practice.
Most of the fraud you experience could come from Nigeria, or one of
the other central & western Africa countries. To ban a whole
continent because of problems some countries cause could be problematic.
For that matter is China a different country from Russia, from
Switzerland, even though they share the same land mass
--
I need to put my 2c in here. I'm from New Zealand, we are a first
world democratic country (the first in the worlds to give the vote to
ALL adults I may mention). I have had the misfortune many of times of
being unable to transact business because people from the US in their
ignorance think, that New Zealand, isn't that part of Australia,
which is right next to Asia, can't do business with those Asians,
they will rip me off. Now sometimes people from the US have asked me
why people in the other parts of the world get a bit annoyed at the
"the only country that is free and true if the good old US of A"
attitude, and well here you go as an example. Lets ban all of Africa
because someone from Nigeria is a scammer. Africa is a pretty big
place, and you know what, I've met many South Africans that are real
nice (even employed a few). I've always been someone who defends
America when people run it down, but it is a two way street, don't
treat a whole country as criminals because you don't know the
difference between one side of a continent from another, its kind of
insulting you know. And some day you might well need the rest of us,
you never know.
If a business only wants to do transaction with people in their own
country, what is wrong with that? There is no international law that
says they have to provide services or products to you because you
live in a different country. Sometimes the lost revenue by not doing
business outside your own country is better than having to deal with
the possibility of fraud. Sometimes it is more of a hassle to deal
with shipping, service and/or support issues with people from a
different country and it's just not worth it.
--
-matt
Hello All,
I've seen a lot of very good and valid comments come out of this
discussion!
I had a mail server that, initially, had no need for foreign (Outside
US) communication. Then exceptions started highly complicating the
situation.
I used this database lookup to compile a list, by country, of those I
wanted to block based upon my mail server's history with
communications with them and on the histories of my users/customers.
http://ip.ludost.net/
Very useful tool!
Cheers,
Glenn Parsons
Combine that with this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_continent_(data_file)
and then can you eliminate a continent or two of your wish.
/Mats
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