On Mon, Dec 31, 2007 at 06:44:08AM -0600, Johnny Hughes wrote: > Everyone is entitled to their own opinion ... mine is that the yum from > CentOS is a critical package and should not be replaced with out a very, > very good reason. Yours is different. Neither is right or wrong ... > they are just different approaches. Sure, and ATrpms' policy wrt to RHEL is to move replacing packages into the testing repo until a better solution is found. Only that yum is not part of RHEL4 end even worse, different clones of RHEL use different yum versions and different sets of (sometimes home-made) plugins. E.g. when talking about "replacing base packages" in RHEL & clone worlds it becomes quite obfuscated. The yum in ATrpms is there for two reasons: o making sure RHEL users also have a yum, but more important o several yum bugs that are triggered by some ATrpms packages have been fixed in later yum version w/o a backport. ATM some plugins and repo policies had unconvered yet another pile of yum bugs that were fixed with 3.2.8 and affected many ATrpms packages (the infamous: "Your installed kernel is not installed" installonly bug). So wrt to yum and a couple similar infratsructure packages it would be nice to have a canonical clone (e.g. from my POV a merged CentOS/SL universe, something I've been advocating) to define as base and then either invest in backporting bugfixes (which is difficult given that yum is at a fast pace and the authors almost never do backports), or update yum more often to remove these bugs (which involves testing yum on CentOS3-5). But this gets off the centos-user list charter a bit, I do hope that working together on the merged 3rd party repo will have side-effects like bringing CentOS/SL even closer and at the end not even have to worry about 3rd party repos. Maybe we should move part of this discussions to other lists. As a short term fix we could discuss on centos/sl-devel whether a new common yum infrastructure could be shared by centos/sl and atrpms (and maybe other 3rd party repos, I think maybe Dag or Dries may have yum shipping, too) removing its own? -- Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net
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