Re: are RPMForge and EPEL compatible?

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On Tue, 2007-12-04 at 21:47 -0500, Jim Perrin wrote:
> On Dec 4, 2007 2:51 PM, Akemi Yagi <amyagi@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > On Dec 4, 2007 11:01 AM, Jim Perrin <jperrin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > > EPEL has stated that playing nicely with other repos is not a goal of
> > > theirs. I would consider them a 'single source' repo. If you're using
> > > them, don't use any other 3rd party repos.
> >
> > Isn't this a little too harsh?  With proper use of the yum priorities
> > plugin, wouldn't it be possible to use stuff from EPEL together with
> > other 3rd party repos?
> 
> I didn't really mean this to be harsh, just my (usually unwanted) assessment.
> 
> It's not that they do conflict necessarily, but that the chance for a
> conflict or bum update is there. Take for example nagios. This package
> is listed by nagios.org as being distributed via dag/rpmforge, though
> EPEL has it too. The epel build separates things out far more than
> they need to be (one package for each plugin). This isn't how rpmforge
> does it. Now if you install nagios from epel, and you're using
> rpmforge also, whichever one updates to the latest version first is
> where you get it from. In this case, it will well and truly hork up
> your nagios install.
> 
> You can (and I do) use both together, but to safely do so, you have to
> use yum priorities or protectbase, as well as some exclude/include
> statements to get things to really and truly play nice without the
> chance for stepping on toes.
> 
> If you're careful, you can do this with absolutely no problem
> whatsoever. Both repos have excellent folks working them. It's the
> users I don't trust much. There are simply too many folks who want
> (and somewhat rightly so) to be able to enable a repo with no fuss,
> get the package they want, and not have to worry about the
> repositories eating their software later without doing a
> priority/include/exclude dance.
----
I'm not entirely sold on the 'priorities' concept but I had to implement
to fix the issue when I installed horde because of the conflicting
pear-pecl cache that Johnny clued me into (again a collision from dag).

But I like dag's upgrades on other stuff (spamassassin to be certain),
etc.

Craig

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