Re: In the market for a new (old) laptop

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Johnny Tan wrote:
Robert Moskowitz wrote:
Don't know what it will be, but I am not suppose to swap its drives out and I continue to use this HP Compaq nc4010 as my Linux workhorse.

Robert: I'm also looking for an ultralight notebook to bring to datacenters with me. The nc4010 sounds pretty good (just looked it up now, had not heard of it before). What is it that you don't like about it?
I pretty much love my nc4010. I got it May, '05. It has the 'most recent' bios on it...

I have used it in plane seats that were very cramp.

Things I do not like:

The drive has to go into a drive carrier. I could only find ONE company in the US selling it and it cost $50. This way I could swap easily between 2 drives. Taking off the screws from a carrier and switching drives, putting screws back in, is not something you want to do on an airplane..

Battery life could be better. With the external battery, I get 4 - 6 hours depending on what I am doing.

Cooling is a problem (but this is common with notebooks). I had Linux shut down this noon do to overheating:

Jun 26 12:19:23 nc4010 kernel: ACPI: Critical trip point
Jun 26 12:19:23 nc4010 kernel: Critical temperature reached (113 C), shutting down. Jun 26 12:19:23 nc4010 kernel: Critical temperature reached (45 C), shutting down.
Jun 26 12:19:23 nc4010 shutdown[5636]: shutting down for system halt
Jun 26 12:19:23 nc4010 shutdown[5637]: shutting down for system halt

Ouch. Oh, I use a piece of toe molding as a notebook 'stand'. It provides just the right angle for the keyboard, allows for some airflow under the unit for cooling, and was CHEAP (had it in my junk wood barrel from a home improvement project). Don't need it when I have the external battery atttached.

No CD/DVD.  OK, I lug along a USB CD/DVD for when I need one.

Only one miniPCI. What do you want there: 802.11 or Bluetooth (thus I have a USB dongle for bluetooth).

No external antenna option. Wonder how this will work with an 802.11n miniPCI; going to have to ask this at the 802 meeting come July....

The 2 USB connectors are so close that you can't plug a typical dongle in directly. Oh and Linux reports finding 3 USB hubs, a 3 port, a 2 port, and a 5 port. Huh?


I have not gotten the internal SD card reader working in Linux. Yesterday, I saw some comments about a card reader on an IBM thinkpad wrt getting it working again after coming out of suspend, so maybe there is hope.

Have not gotten the internal Modem working. I had tried the WinModem stuff, I did get some tips, I need to revisit this.

Suspend to memory does not work 'out of the box' Don't click on the System>Suspend option...

I am still struggling with Suspend2. I built a nice large swap partition to Hibernate to the drive to make drive swapping easier....

So it is an older box. When I started with Linux there was not anything out there about putting Linux on this unit. I need to start a page with what works here....

If I can find something newer and better and cheap, I will grab it. Otherwise, this dog hunts.


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