On Wednesday 06 June 2007 23:06:30 John bowden wrote:
> On Wednesday 06 June 2007 16:27:28 Max Hetrick wrote:
> > pctech@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > > Unfortunately, I have had nothing, thus far, but bad experiences with
> > > wikis. Especially when you begin letting others "mark up" something
> > > that you've posted there. At that point, because your name is on it,
> > > you "own" all of their mistakes. I'm not saying that the CentOS wiki
> > > is like that, just wikis in general.
> > >
> > > WikiPedia is probably one of the most horrifically obvious examples of
> > > what I am talking about. Not only do you have all of the blatant
> > > inaccuracies, which tend to get attributed back to the original article
> > > author, but you also have all of the drama that goes along with it.
> > >
> > > Things start to go sideways when you begin to let others exert their
> > > own creative control over something with your name on it. I'm all for
> > > the free exchange of ideas, information, and knowledge. I'm not all
> > > for getting blamed for some crap someone added to something with my
> > > name on it. Been there, done that, don't need that drama anymore.
> > >
> > > Some wikis, again I speak in general, not of the CentOS wiki, also
> > > demand that you turn over any and all rights to whatever you post
> > > there. While I enjoy sharing my knowledge with the world for free, I
> > > will be damned if I will give up my rights to profit from it in the
> > > future. Even the BSD license doesn't expect this.
> > >
> > > This document, the firewall one, is the first in a series of documents
> > > that I plan on writing. I've worked very hard to get it to the state
> > > that it is at right now. It's what I consider a "living document" and
> > > will be changing as necessary. The second in the series is a document
> > > on building a network monitor based on open source tools. I've just
> > > begun writing it. I am hoping to have it completed in a couple of
> > > months, now that I have a format I am happy with for my documents. The
> > > third of the series will be on building a VPN concentrator based on
> > > open source tools. Part of what takes me so long to write these
> > > documents is that I don't actually enjoy writing. I enjoy doing. The
> > > firewall document started out of necessity to build multiple Linux
> > > based firewalls consistently and rapidly for myself and just morphed
> > > into something that I decided to share with the community. I figured
> > > that since there wasn't much out there that was useful others might
> > > like it.
> > >
> > > While it's, most definitely, not the be-all end-all of Linux based
> > > firewall information, I think it's a pretty good document that I've
> > > worked very hard to write in a presentable manner that most people
> > > could understand and even expand upon for themselves. I am all for
> > > receiving comments and suggestions for future revisions of the
> > > document, any document that I write for that matter. I'm just not all
> > > for having my documents hacked apart by every Tom, Dick, and Harry on
> > > the Internet and then all of the misinformation getting lumped onto my
> > > shoulders because I happen to be the person that wrote the original
> > > document. I've already had enough drama from the CentOS forums where I
> > > got accused of being an e-mail address harvester for a spammer. No
> > > thanks. I don't need that in my life. I'm just a computer network
> > > engineer that THOUGHT he was doing the right thing by giving back to
> > > the community.
> >
> > Understood, that's your right. It seems kind of silly, though, to go to
> > the trouble of writing so much, then limit yourself with sharing to only
> > a very small percentage of the CentOS community by broadcasting a
> > message to e-mail you for documentation. Documentation is supposed to be
> > readily available, that's the point of it, at least from my perspective,
> > no matter what the license or stipulations of the content are.
> >
> > Although you can pick out a license for your material that would cover
> > protecting the interests you have expressed, yet at the same time
> > allowing others to share in your material. One of the Creative Commons
> > license, or another, would do the trick.
> >
> > That said, do you not have a place to host the document then? It seems
> > that if you've gone to that much trouble to write something, then
> > perhaps you just need a spot somewhere to host the document?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Max
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> Just a thought how about releasing it as a "how to"?
Can I have a copy please? I don't care how you distribute it, e mail, snail
mail or by pigeon mail. My cat prefers the pigeon method ;-)
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