I know about dag's repo from the bad old fedora days (when ATRPMS, LIVINA wouldn't play nicely), but his webmin is older than the official one. On the subject of wine and winetools, the winehq rpms work properly with centOS. The KBS repo may not be aware of this situation and they have included a dud wine-tools (note the hyphen) which is not winetools. The other issue is that for example i reinstalled apt, apt-devel and synaptic from centos extras and the rpmforge has newer versions of apt, apt-devel and synaptic. KBS repo if enabled would overwrite the rpmforge apt,apt-devel and synaptic even if KBS does not suupport apt4rpm. I hope CentOS does not get to the "Fedora sharks repo" situation - where the repos compete and overwrite the base system files giving unexpected results. Craig, where is the KDE-Redhat repo, I'm not a fan of KDE but if they have a newer SAMBA, I'll see whether it can quiten the logs. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com