Re: CentOS7 latest kernel still does not run KVM guests

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There is https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2143438 which I ran into on AlmaLinux 8, (which impacts Xeon 55xx processors, but seems to work on Xeon 56xx and newer).

Just a user who ran into it (nothing to do with the fix), and I upgraded the server to a Xeon 56XX processor to resolve it. (an ancient Intel S5520HC board)

On 2022-12-20 09:08, Joshua Kramer wrote:
"In fact, the system runs great on the newest kernel, right up to the
point where a VM is started.  It will run for days as long as I never
start a VM.  Start a VM and BAM!  It is hung hard."

Are you required to use "official supported kernels" or do you have some flexibility? My main KVM host is a Centos 7 box and I'm using kernel-ml from elrepo-kernel. The kernel version usually tracks with recent kernel releases- on my el9 boxes it's currently at 6.1- but I'm running 5.19 on my
Centos 7 KVM host with no issue.

On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 10:24 AM Bill Gee <bgee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hmmm....   I have dealt with bad power supplies.  I doubt it is the
problem in this case.  If it were a power supply, then why does the
system work perfectly on the older kernel?

In fact, the system runs great on the newest kernel, right up to the
point where a VM is started.  It will run for days as long as I never
start a VM.  Start a VM and BAM!  It is hung hard.

===============
Bill Gee

On 12/20/22 08:30, Christopher Wensink wrote:
> I have had two different Router machines do something similar on the
> IPFire OS, and the core cause ended up being power related.  One power
> supply was intermittently dying with the whole system hanging, and the
> only option was a hard reset.  The second system also had issues with
> the hard drive and also the power supply.  These units were Mini ITX
> boards, Super micro Sys-E200-9B with the Pentium N3710 Quad Core,
> System-on-chip, 8GB Ram, 120 GB SSD, Quad NIC Cards, and they used
> external 60W DC power adapters similar to a higher end laptop style.
>
> I don't blame the manufacturer, I think it was an issue with the power
> supplies going bad.
>
> Chris
>
> On 12/20/2022 8:16 AM, Bill Gee wrote:
>> Hi Johnny -
>>
>> Yipes, I hate problems like this!
>>
>> The host computer is a SuperMicro C2SBC-Q mainboard.  The processor is
>> an Intel Core2-Quad Q9400.  Yes, it is x86_64 architecture.  The
>> display adapter is an older nVidia GeForce 8400 GS, and I use the
>> nouveau driver for it.  Selinux is disabled.
>>
>> The guest machines are Fedora 37 and CentOS7.
>>
>> So far I have found no log files with anything useful.  The hang
>> happens so quick that nothing gets logged. Here is a section of
>> /var/log/messages.  Notice the gap at 06:32 to 06:43.  This is where I
>> started a virtual guest and the system hung.  At reboot I chose a
>> different kernel.
>>
>> ======================
>> Dec 20 06:32:26 practice7 systemd: Starting Fingerprint Authentication
>> Daemon...
>> Dec 20 06:32:26 practice7 dbus[750]: [system] Successfully activated
>> service 'net.reactivated.Fprint'
>> Dec 20 06:32:26 practice7 systemd: Started Fingerprint Authentication
>> Daemon.
>> Dec 20 06:32:26 practice7 dbus[750]: [system] Activating via systemd:
>> service name='org.freedesktop.realmd' unit='realmd.service'
>> Dec 20 06:32:26 practice7 systemd: Starting Realm and Domain
>> Configuration...
>> Dec 20 06:32:26 practice7 dbus[750]: [system] Successfully activated
>> service 'org.freedesktop.realmd'
>> Dec 20 06:32:26 practice7 systemd: Started Realm and Domain
>> Configuration.
>> Dec 20 06:32:48 practice7 systemd: Starting Stop Read-Ahead Data
>> Collection...
>> Dec 20 06:32:48 practice7 systemd: Started Stop Read-Ahead Data
>> Collection.
>> Dec 20 06:43:08 practice7 journal: Runtime journal is using 8.0M (max
>> allowed 391.0M, trying to leave 586.5M free of 3.8G available →
>> current limit 391.0M).
>> Dec 20 06:43:08 practice7 kernel: microcode: microcode updated early
>> to revision 0xa0b, date = 2010-09-28
>> Dec 20 06:43:08 practice7 kernel: Initializing cgroup subsys cpuset
>> Dec 20 06:43:08 practice7 kernel: Initializing cgroup subsys cpu
>> Dec 20 06:43:08 practice7 kernel: Initializing cgroup subsys cpuacct
>> Dec 20 06:43:08 practice7 kernel: Linux version
>> 3.10.0-1160.76.1.el7.x86_64 (mockbuild@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) (gcc
>> version 4.8.5 20150623 (Red Hat 4.8.5-44) (GCC) ) #1 SMP Wed Aug 10
>> 16:21:17 UTC 2022
>>
>> ==========================
>>
>> Is there anyplace else I should look for log files?  Is there a way to
>> get verbose logging?
>>
>> How might I check for a kernel panic?  The display never says anything
>> about a kernel panic - it just hangs.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> ===============
>> Bill Gee
>>
>> On 12/20/22 07:25, Johnny Hughes wrote:
>>> On 12/20/22 06:50, Bill Gee wrote:
>>>> The two latest kernels for CentOS7 are complete fails for running
>>>> KVM and QEMU guest machines.
>>>>
>>>> Version 3.10.0-1160.76.1 works correctly.  Both 3.10.0-1160.80.1 and
>>>> 3.10.0-1160.81.1 will hang within seconds of launching any virtual
>>>> machine.  It is a HARD hang.  I have to pull the power cord from the
>>>> computer in order to regain control.
>>>>
>>>> Since 81.1 came out within the last few days, I assumed it would
>>>> contain a fix for this problem.  It does not.
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone know when a kernel will be released that fixed this
>>>> problem?
>>>>
>>> This is not true for all KVM guests.  This kernel is actually
>>> installed and test booted before release on a cold iron, KVM VM,
>>> Virtual Box VM, and ESXi VM.
>>>
>>> It also passes our t_functional test suite:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> All C7 updates run through all these tests for all new rpms.
>>>
>>> So this problem has some other specific cause.  Is this on a E5507
>>> processor?
>>>
>>> What OS is the KVM host running.  I assume this is x86_64 arch?
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