> The original poster has not told us why he is still on > 4.0 This system is still on 4.0 because I installed this system for someone a year ago. Any time that there is an update that I think is important for him to install, I send him an email telling him to install a newer version to correct the current issue. It seems that this person has not applied any updates whatsoever since I last touched the system, and I have informed him that it is quite dangerous to have his server live on the internet without updates for a year. As far as the server it is providing web/email/ftp services, and this is his only server. I am not close by to this server, but he is, and he can be hands and eyes (with rescue media) if needed. Thanks to everyone for their input, it is greatly appreciated. Barry