Re: Centos versions in the future?

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On 4/27/21 10:32 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
On 4/27/21 9:29 AM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:


On 4/27/21 8:55 AM, Pete Biggs wrote:
On Tue, 2021-04-27 at 09:36 -0400, Carlos Oliva wrote:
Thank you for your response Rich. I have heard that Stream is beta
releases of RH -- rather distressing. Is this a proper characterization?

You heard wrong.

Stream is effectively a rolling early release of the next point release
of RHEL. The packages in stream are fully tested and have gone through
QA.  They are not beta releases.


With all due respect, - and avoiding the names to not scratch against
"release,..." definitions, he is more correct in his feelings (that what
you say) which I would formulate as "stream users are sort of Guinea
pigs for RedHat releases".

And mind that I have no emotions about it as my servers are FreeBSD for
over a decade. And new number crunchers and workstations going Debian
since CentOS ceased to be RedHat Enterprise binary replica was such a
minor change...

Just my $0.02.

Valeri

The disadvantage of Stream is that it doesn't have the full 10 year
support of RHEL and doesn't have the full binary compatibility to RHEL.


You would be hard pressed to find many FUNCTIONAL differences between
Stream and CentOS Linux // just as you would be hard pressed to find
many differences between RHEL 8.2 and RHEL 8.3, for example.

Are there some differences?  Sure.

If people don't want stream, then by all means , use something else.

CentOS 7 Linux will be around until the RHEL 7 EOL .. CentOS 8 Linux
will be around until 31 Dec 2021 and CentOS Stream will be around for %
years after the RHEL 8 Release.  CentOS Stream 9 will be around until
for 5 years after the RHEL 9 release.


Thanks Johnny for calmly stating what is what. This exactly is where all statements about CentOS should end.

It is what it is .. all the negative comments are not going to change it.


My comment was just to balance Pete's as the truth between Pete's statement and Carlos feelings is where I'm sure my comment pointed... No negative intended, just stating of the facts as they are perceived by some (many? - not many if to discount these who fled totally).

And as always: thank you personally and the whole CentOS team, everyone who worked on this project during last two decades to make it as great as we know and used it - as "binary replica of RedHat Enterprise Linux". Your effort can not be overestimated, as well as the way to say it: a "binary replica of RedHat Enterprise Linux" was always quenching any doubts in everyone I had to talk to - both technical people and non-technical ones. (Not anymore, sigh).

Valeri

For people who can not accept this and live with it .. life is too short
for so much negative emotions.  Go places and use things that make you
happy.
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