Re: Recommendations for webmail client on EL8

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On 3/1/21 11:02 AM, Simon Matter wrote:


On 3/1/21 10:27 AM, Jay Hart wrote:


Am 01.03.21 um 15:56 schrieb Simon Matter:

On 3/1/21 2:57 PM, Simon Matter wrote:
...
I was looking at Roundcube but it seems difficult on EL8 because a
lot
of
PHP stuff is missing and not available as RPMs. I guess the same is
true
for the python things needed for Mailpile. In the end my list only
contains Cypht, Rainloop and Afterlogic Webmail lite.

...

Have you considered to run the official Roundcube container image as
a
podmans systemd service?

https://hub.docker.com/r/roundcube/roundcubemail/

https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/improved-systemd-podman (Podman >=
2.0
required, but it's only a systemd service file to be created
manually)

Hi Thomas,

Thanks for your suggestion. No, I'm not really thinking about
docker/podman. I prefer having clean system installs, even if I have
to
create RPMs myself. This has worked fine for the last two decades but
yes,
I'm afraid, this is considered old school these days :-)


Hey Simon, take a look at Remi's repository ...

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Leon

Hi Leon, thanks.
I'm wondering why these things are not in EPEL?

Simon

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Simon,

I'm in same boat as you. I have a C6 machine running squirrelmail that
I've been trying to get upgraded. I bought a new machine and have
C8 installed, postfix, dovecot, SA, the works, running.  But, I couldn't
get squirrelmail running.

I'm also very interested in the answer to this question, "what webmail
to run on C8" (or stream in the future).  I've looked at the same
SW apps you have and have not really gotten a warm fuzzy over anything.

I wonder if another tact to take would be to try to get squirrelmail
more "modern". I know Les is still doing a bit of dev, but it does
seem like squirrelmail is lagging behind.


I know this is irrelevant to CentOS and RedHat Enterprise, as I run
these on FreeBSD (in separate dedicated jail). I do have both of them:
roundcube and squirrelmail. When I tell my users about the options, I
tell them roundcube is modern and fancy. Squirrelmail, though same good,
is more older style. So, they have choices to match their taste.

And again, this is irrelevant to Linux. But both roundcube and
squirrelmail will not be phased out in close future (my own estimate),
though squirrelmail has reached the stage when new features will not be
added (nothing bad about that in my book).

Valeri

Hi Valeri, I've just checked FreeBSD ports:

- squirrelmail latest with php 8

Just for record: list of available packages (note PHP version):

squirrelmail-php73-20200422
squirrelmail-php74-20200422
squirrelmail-php80-20200422

- roundcube 1.4.11 (latest) with php 7.4
- rainloop 1.15.0 (latest) with php 8
- horde-webmail 5.2.22 (latest) with php 8

Once again a slap in my face as an EL user :-)

But I have an idea, I'll look at the squirrelmail port closely and see how
I can include the updated code in my RPMs. Sounds like a solution - or
move everything to FreeBSD. I'm running a FreeBSD test VM for years and I
really like the upgrades the FreeBSD way!


Running things in FreeBSD jails (only inseparable things in the same jail) makes things extremely easy: such as upgrades to higher version, updates, migration of servers, or when what you need depends on different things which are incompatible. Several servers I run do not exist as a machines, or individual systems: a host may be a bunch of (2-5) different jails.

And I for one consider FreeBSD jails much more secure and significantly slimmer an any virtualization solutions on Linux. But don't ask me to prove the point ;-)

Valeri

Simon

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