On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 9:42 AM Rainer Duffner <rainer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > Am 08.12.2020 um 15:32 schrieb Phelps, Matthew <mphelps@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >: > > > > This is really, really bad for the majority of us using CentOS. > > > > > > Of course it is. > > > > Is there any way we can lobby for the reversal of this decision? Remember > > that the -devel mailing list, and IRC channels *do not* represent the > vast > > majority of CentOS users. Most of us are just sysadmins trying to keep > our > > systems that have been using CentOS for many, many years running and our > > procedures for installing, and patching systems working after whatever > > changes have been mysteriously decided upon, and forced on us. > > > > We will be forced to look at other distributions now; and forced to do a > > ton of unnecessary work to deal with this. > > > > The reality is that it was always on borrowed time. > > Getting RHEL without paying for it and with slight delays in updates (most > people don’t even update that often anyway) wasn’t going to be sustainable, > ever. > > If your business case resolves around being able to freeload on the work > of others, then there’s a serious problem with the business case. > I DO NOT WORK FOR A BUSINESS!! (Yes, I'm yelling. Sorry, but I am well and truly pissed off!) We have no budget for RHEL. > > And I say that as somebody who has installed a large portion of the > CentOS8 (and 7) servers at work. > > Not sure what we ourselves are going to do about it, though. > > I would hate to switch to Ubuntu for the stuff I like CentOS most for (for > some, it’s arguably not the greatest distro). > > We might end up licensing RHEL for that - and the rest maybe Fedora. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@xxxxxxxxxx > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > -- *Matt Phelps* *Information Technology Specialist, Systems Administrator* (Computation Facility, Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory) Center for Astrophysics | Harvard & Smithsonian 60 Garden Street | MS 39 | Cambridge, MA 02138 email: mphelps@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx cfa.harvard.edu | Facebook <http://cfa.harvard.edu/facebook> | Twitter <http://cfa.harvard.edu/twitter> | YouTube <http://cfa.harvard.edu/youtube> | Newsletter <http://cfa.harvard.edu/newsletter> _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@xxxxxxxxxx https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos