Re: External harddisk

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On 2020-09-30 10:55, Mark (Netbook) wrote:
Since you have taken the disk apart it will now be useless as within the enclosure there could have been a vacuum or an inert gas.


No, old drives were filled with air usually, and were connected to exterior atmosphere via porous barrier. That is why regular drives are much more likely to fail up in the mountains, say where the is about 1/2 of normal atmospheric pressure. Pressure inside ordinary drive is the same as external pressure, and heads are just spring loaded and are resting on platter surface, and are pushed away from it when platters spin (hence so called "parking track" ). Air works as viscous liquid at these relative speeds, and the law is at least cubic, so at 1/2 atmosphere heads are much closer to platter surface. Therefore, failures are quite likely. Sealed drives are still not wide spread, He (helium) filled would be one type. But sealed drives existed even some 25+ years ago (to be used at Astronomy observatories high in mountains, e.g.). I remember HP drives of that kind that costed $10k apiece back then, and those dollars, not today's dollars.

What you are right about is: the drive upon opening got contaminated with solid dust particles, and will not serve long. But fair chance is, one still will be able to get data off it.

You will never be able to recover any data on the disk unless you go and pay for a professional data recovery organisation to read the platters.


While he may be able to recover data, professional recovery are more likely to succeed. They will be not happy to work with drive that was opened not in a "clean room", and my charge more. Be it I, I definitely will tell them that drive was opened not in clean room, they will know anyway once they have drive.

Valeri

The price for a replacement 340GByte USB disk is about $25 which would give you a better product than your old disk.

Mark

-----Original Message----- From: H
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 4:47 PM
To: centos@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re:  External harddisk

On 09/30/2020 05:40 AM, John Pierce wrote:
On Tue, Sep 29, 2020, 8:33 AM H <agents@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I have an old external harddisk, Toshiba 320 Gb, with a USB connector that
I wanted to check for contents. It did not start up when connected and I
could not hear the motor spinning. After leaving it in the freezer
overnight the motor spins but it is not recognized by my computer. I
disassembled it and could see that the head assembly rests outside the disk but when it is powered on, the head first moves to the center of the disk,
then to the periphery and finally back to the resting position. This
happens every few seconds and leaving it connected overnight changed
nothing.

That repeated seeking suggests it's not passing its self test, and is
constantly retrying.   It's probably searching for servo data on the disks,
and not finding it.

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I see. I have not searched for any low-level disk utility from Toshiba, the manufacturer of the disk. Do you think that might be worthwhile to hopefully fix this?

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