Il 02/08/20 00:42, Mike McCarthy, W1NR ha scritto:
It appears that it is affecting multiple distributions including Debian
and Ubuntu so it looks like the grub2 team messed up. See
https://www.zdnet.com/article/boothole-fixes-causing-boot-problems-across-multiple-linux-distros/
Mike
On 8/1/2020 6:11 PM, Marc Balmer via CentOS wrote:
Am 01.08.2020 um 23:52 schrieb Leon Fauster via CentOS <centos@xxxxxxxxxx>:
Am 01.08.20 um 23:41 schrieb Kay Schenk:
Well misery loves company but still...just truly unfathomable!
Time for a change.
I can only express my incomprehension for such statements!
Stay and help. Instead running away or should I say out of the
frying pan and into the fire? :-)
The thing, RHEL and CentOS not properly testing updates, cost me at minimum 3-4 full working days, plus losses at customer sites.
This is really a huge failure of RHEL and CentOS.
A lot of trust has been destroyed.
Hi Mike,
I'm not interested that the issue is present on Debian, Ubuntu and the
others. Currently I'm using CentOS, I'm a CentOS user and currently I'm
interested what is happening on CentOS because I have machines that runs
CentOS. If the "wrong" patch was not pushed as update so fast (maybe
waiting more time before release with more testing to get all cases [yes
because when you update grub and depending on the fix you can break a
system easily]) there would have been no problem, by the way I prefer
wait some days (consider that I can accept the release delay of
minor/major release) then break my systems...and without messages on ML
announces about this type of problem does not help. Sorry I can't know
what and when a packages is updated, why it is updated, what type of
problem (CVE) it suffers and do my reasoning for an update process. This
is a missing for me but I still use centos and I should not need a RHEL
account to access to get advisories and see what applies on CentOS
(6,7,8 and Stream).
Many of us, choose CentOS due to its stability and enteprise-ready
feature (and because is partially/enterely backed by RH). Due to actual
problem, many server and workstation died and it's normal that some user
said "A lot of trust has been destroyed." because they placed a lot of
trust on the pro-redhat support. On the other side, all of us can fall
in error and this is the case (like me that I updated blindy, so its
also my fault not only the broken update).
Only one error in many years could not destroy a distro and its
stability reputation (I think and correct me if I'm wrong) and I hope it
won't happen again.
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