> > > > > If they would switch PGLOG from /dev/null to /var/lib/pgsql for default > you might actually log something useful :-) wow.. god forbid that happen :-P I wasn't aware they did that. Still, if it doesn't even start there may be hints in /var/log/messages, or possibly an selinux error to confirm my wild speculation. Thanks for the pointer on the logging though. That's good to know. > grep "/dev/null" /etc/init.d/postgresql > > > Ted > -- Jim Perrin System Administrator - UIT Ft Gordon & US Army Signal Center