On Tue, 2005-09-20 at 11:45, Robert wrote: > anyways, the question i am wondering is... when a mainstream package like > Apache httpd is upgraded to a newer version and released by the package > maintainers, how long does it take for that to be picked up by our > "upstream" and then incorporated and pushed to CentOS availability? The short answer is 'never'. The point of enterprise distributions is that within their lifespan there are never major changes to the included applications. Instead, the old versions are supported by backporting security and bug fixes to the original releases so anything that depends on current behavior does not break. Sometimes that's what you want; sometimes it isn't... Personally I wish there were an intermediate between fedora and Centos that had a slow release cycle for the operating system and hardware-related components but stayed close to the developers on the desktop/application side. That way you wouldn't have to screw up a nice stable installation with new device drivers you don't need just so you can have the recent improvements to OO and Evolution (which won't crash the machine even if they have a problem). But, nobody does it that way. -- Les Mikesell lesmikesell@xxxxxxxxx