Re: What RH-like on a Dell XPS 15 (9590)?

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Hello Mike,


On Wed, 2 Aug 2017 17:19:30 -0400 "Mike McCarthy, W1NR" <sysop@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On 08/02/2017 10:55 AM, Lamar Owen wrote:
> > On 07/27/2017 04:16 PM, wwp wrote:  
> >> ...
> >> It is as simple as unknown hardware at boot up, it's a well known issue
> >> w/ *Lake hardware (modern hardware) that kernel 3.x cannot handle.
> >> CentOS7 has a kernel which is simply not modern, unable to handle lots
> >> of computers sold currently.
> >>
> >> That said, there might be a way to boot, but nothing trivial and
> >> nothing at all I could find on the Internet, everytime it's kernel
> >> 4.3/4.10 minimum required.  
> > ...
> >
> > While I know that Johnny has provided the experimental kernel (thanks,
> > Johnny) I would like to just briefly address this idea that the C7
> > kernel is 'obviously' not going to work because 'is 3.x and must have
> > 4.x.'
> >
> > In EL-land, kernel versions are effectively meaningless, since
> > features, hardware support, bugfixes, security fixes, etc are
> > back-ported into the 'old and not modern' 3.10 kernel (for EL7) by
> > competent developers at Red Hat.  An EL 3.10 kernel, such as the
> > current 3.10.0-514.26.2.el7.x86_64 one, may have hardware support
> > back-ported from a 4.x kernel that doesn't exist in the vanilla
> > kernel.org kernel (I'm almost certain it does, but I'm not going to
> > take the time to get details).
> >
> > So it is very possible that full hardware support for your hardware
> > could show up in a 3.10 kernel (in fact, I would expect that this
> > would happen, but it might not happen quickly).  As you found out,
> > experimental kernels and non-distribution kernels can freak out
> > software packages, such as VMware Workstation, that only work with
> > certain kernels and are expecting a particular kernel version and ABI
> > for EL7.  I've tried out a few non-standard kernels before, and if you
> > rely on packages that depend upon the distribution default kernel
> > version (as I do with kmod-nvidia from ELrepo!) that breakage can be
> > swift, and can derail you in a hurry, causing you to go down a rabbit
> > hole very quickly.  So be prepared and keep your eyes open for these
> > issues.
> >
> > In some circles, the back-porting of features into old kernels is
> > controversial; but that is a business decision made as part of the EL
> > development and is not likely to change any time soon.  YMMV.
> > _______________________________________________  
> 
> I missed some of the responses but have you tried kernel-ml for RHEL 7
> yet? See http://elrepo.org/tiki/kernel-ml

In that time, no, but since then, yes. I replied some detail elsewhere
to this thread. More to come!


Regards,

-- 
wwp

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