Re: Missing rpms - Re: What is in a yum group

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On 05/25/2017 12:29 PM, Bowie Bailey wrote:
On 5/25/2017 12:07 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:


On 05/25/2017 11:22 AM, Bowie Bailey wrote:
On 5/25/2017 10:04 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:


On 05/25/2017 09:32 AM, Leon Fauster wrote:
Am 25.05.2017 um 15:27 schrieb Robert Moskowitz <rgm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:

Thanks. I followed this to: http://mirror.centos.org/centos/7/os/x86_64/Packages/

And could not find any of the following:

No package xfce-utils available.
No package NetworkManager-gnome available.
No package leafpad available.
No package xfce4-icon-theme available.
Package xfce4-mixer is obsoleted by xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin, trying to install xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin-0.2.4-4.el7.x86_64 instead
No package xfwm4-theme-nodoka available.

So it would appear that an Xfce desktop install is 'broken' for some level of brokeness for Centos7.

But interestingly, NetworkManager-gnome is not used by gnome. It has a bunch of other NetworkManager rpms. I also checked Fedora 21 and 24 and their Xfce desktop does not list NetworkManager-gnome when I do a group info xfce. So there is something wrong in the packaging of the xfce group in Centos7-x64 that Scott provided me...

Xfce is provided by EPEL:

https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2017-May/164858.html

I missed that your two emails pointed to different urls. Thanks. But...

Enabling epel does not provide an Xfce group.
Enabling epel does not give me the missing rpms. It does provide both mixer and pulseaudio-plugin, but not the others.

So Xfce is still broken at some level of brokeness with C7.

On my rather basic C7 system with epel enabled, I don't see any problems.

    # yum groupinstall "Xfce"
    ...
    Install  20 Packages (+193 Dependent packages)

It did not give any errors and the install list does not mention any of the missing packages that you list above. It works fine with C7. There must be some difference with your system.

The group is not on my system. I am using ClearOS' version of the Centos repos, so not necessarily a surprise. And all my other servers are Centos7-armv7hl, also with no Xfce group. But the armv7hl repos have a number of build challenges that we have had to work around...

Can you please run:

yum group info Xfce

and send me the output?

Here is what the group info gives me:

Group: Xfce
 Group-Id: xfce-desktop
Description: A lightweight desktop environment that works well on low end machines.
 Mandatory Packages:
   +Thunar
   +xfce-utils
   +xfce4-panel
   +xfce4-session
   +xfce4-settings
   +xfconf
   +xfdesktop
   +xfwm4
 Default Packages:
   +NetworkManager-gnome
   +gdm
   +leafpad
   +openssh-askpass
   +orage
   +polkit-gnome
   +thunar-archive-plugin
   +thunar-volman
   +tumbler
   +xfce4-appfinder
   +xfce4-icon-theme
   +xfce4-power-manager
   +xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin
   +xfce4-session-engines
   +xfce4-terminal
   +xfwm4-theme-nodoka
 Optional Packages:
   xfwm4-themes
 Conditional Packages:
   +pinentry-gtk

I don't know why that list is different from what it actually tries to install. When I try to install it, I get this:

Installing for group install "Xfce":
 Thunar x86_64            1.6.11-1.el7 epel               1.4 M
 gdm x86_64            1:3.14.2-20.el7_3 updates            719 k
openssh-askpass x86_64 6.6.1p1-35.el7_3 updates 74 k
 orage x86_64            4.12.1-3.el7 epel               1.8 M
 polkit-gnome x86_64            0.105-6.el7 epel                82 k
thunar-archive-plugin x86_64 0.3.1-6.el7 epel 69 k
 thunar-volman x86_64            0.8.1-2.el7 epel 175 k
 tumbler x86_64            0.1.31-2.el7 epel               195 k
 xfce4-appfinder x86_64            4.12.0-4.el7 epel 194 k
 xfce4-panel x86_64            4.12.0-4.el7 epel               820 k
xfce4-power-manager x86_64 1.6.0-2.el7 epel 769 k xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin x86_64 0.2.5-1.el7 epel 71 k
 xfce4-session x86_64            4.12.1-8.el7 epel 484 k
xfce4-session-engines x86_64 4.12.1-8.el7 epel 315 k
 xfce4-settings x86_64            4.12.0-7.el7 epel 658 k
 xfce4-terminal x86_64            0.6.3-4.el7 epel 484 k
 xfconf x86_64            4.12.0-3.el7 epel               199 k
 xfdesktop x86_64            4.12.3-2.el7 epel               1.0 M
 xfwm4 x86_64            4.12.3-2.el7 epel               627 k
Installing:
 pinentry-gtk x86_64            0.8.1-17.el7 base 51 k

Plus 193 dependencies. I do not have any xfce packages installed already.

Note that you do not have xfce-utils or leafpad.

Do you have themes?  What is your background.

I have actually gotten Xfce working. Kindof. I am into Xfce via vncserver. It pretty much looks like Xfce on my Fedora systems. Backleveled a bit of course. No sensor applet to show the cpu temp for example.

But no background, other than black.

Oh, and no NetworkManager on the tray.

I am going to install geany for the editor. I use geany a lot for editing xml and html files so am familiar with it. It is just a bit much for editing a simple text file.

Anyway, it is possible to get Xfce running on Centos7, but it is missing some rpms.
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