Re: OT: systemd Poll

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On 11/04/17 17:02, Bruce Ferrell wrote:
> On 04/11/2017 07:50 AM, Andrew Holway wrote:
>>>   I'd much rather have a bash script to look at-- and manually step
>>> through.
>>
>> Is that a joke? Bash is an almighty impenetrable nightmare. I've been
>> doing
>> *nix for nearly 10 years and *still* am unable to read anything vaguely
>> complicated in bash whereas I can write fairly decent python after 6
>> months. From my point of view SystemD is amazing I can write a 6 line
>> service file for my apps and it *just works* and I don't have to think
>> about it anymore.
>>
>> What is it about SystemD that brings out the Richard Stallman in
>> everyone?
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> *10 WHOLE years*...  And bash is *STILL* impenetrable for you?
> 
> How about over 30 and it took me a week?  No, I don't carry a CS degree
> or cert of any kind either, just some high school.
> 
> For me, systemd has been an absolute nightmare of unexpected reboots and
> non-transparently broken processes with just plain bad implementations
> crammed onto my system.  Faster boot they said, except it ISN'T faster
> now, it's slower and MUCH more difficult to sort through to find out why
> with it's monolithic architecture and poor documentation.
> 
> It wasn't broken before.  What was being fixed?
> 
Boot speed isn't everything.  My servers take far longer to initialise
than boot, so having to repeat the boot to sort out the black magic
takes __much__ longer than having a steppable script.

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