Re: sound problems... alsa & systemd? Partially FIXED

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On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 9:53 AM, ken <gebser@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On 04/02/2017 01:31 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 03/29/2017 06:43 AM, ken wrote:
>>
>>> On 03/28/2017 08:53 PM, ken wrote:
>>>
>>>> The www has failed me with this, so I'm trying you guys.  Sound worked
>>>> great out of the box when I installed 7.2... Yay!  I could watch all
>>>> kinds of videos, like on facebook and youtube.  And I could listen to
>>>> most podcasts too.  But then something happened. It was either a
>>>> kernel upgrade or that I installed vlc (for watching videos on DVD)
>>>> and the whole stack of codecs for it... I don't know exactly when, but
>>>> at some point I no longer had sound with youtube  and other web
>>>> videos.  The videos played fine, just no sound.  Note that using vlc,
>>>> both video and the audio with it play just fine.  I need to select the
>>>> audio driver (from a list in a vlc menu), however, else the sound
>>>> won't work in vlc either.
>>>>
>>>> If I go into the Applications menu, then System Tools -> Settings ->
>>>> Sound, under "Choose a device for sound output:" there are no devices
>>>> listed.  There used to be.
>>>>
>>>> If I run "aplayer file.wav", nothing plays (no sound at all) and I get
>>>> the error "main:786: audio open error: No such file or directory".
>>>> If, on the other hand, I run "aplay file.wav -D plughw:0" (i.e.,
>>>> specify the/a device), I do get sound, the file does play.
>>>>
>>>> I ran alsa-info.sh and it posted tons of info from it on my setup at
>>>> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=1dba91886be054df4816000768
>>>> a0f5b109947a48.
>>>> Yet it still doesn't tell me what's missing.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone here have an idea...? or thoughts about where to look next?
>>>>
>>>> tia,
>>>> ken
>>>>
>>>
>>> Still poking around my system for a solution, I found this comment at
>>> the top of /usr/lib/systemd/system/alsa-state.service and two other
>>> files in the same directory:
>>>
>>> # Note that two different ALSA card state management schemes exist and
>>>> they
>>>> # can be switched using a file exist check -
>>>> /etc/alsa/state-daemon.conf .
>>>>
>>>
>>> The /etc/alsa/state-daemon.conf file consists of one line:
>>>
>>> # Remove this file to disable the alsactl daemon mode
>>>>
>>>
>>> I understand that a daemon continually runs, waiting for an event and
>>> then acts in some way in response, but it has to mean something more in
>>> this context.  Anyone familiar with the internals of this?
>>>
>>>
>>> I am not on systemd right now. I'm on CentOS 6.8. However, on an
>> openSUSE version I was. Sound problems were the bane of my existence
>> forever it seemed. So it maye take you a while to troubleshoot this. Using
>> JUST alsa you should be able to play sound files at the command line. See:
>> http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Main_Page
>>
>>
>> I think I may have installed pulse-audio to get things working under
>> systemd with my GUI. What is your GUI? This may be a factor.
>>
>> Thanks for the thought.  This is quite plausible.  I did a little reading
> at the site you suggested and then at another which was linked off of
> that.  I didn't find anything helpful at either place yet... well, except
> that in the audio stack alsa is just one layer; jack and pulseaudio ride on
> top of it.  Apparently sound on linux can use all of them-- and others on
> both of the same layers-- all at the same time.  This is probably what
> makes the configuration of them all so challenging.
>
> In the middle of reading those sites I decided to see if audacity (a quite
> sophisticated and solid program) could somehow handle sound. I installed it
> and fired it up.  Out of the box it didn't work.  But I simply had to
> choose the correct device from audacity's drop-down menu and, viola, it
> would produce sound from a loaded file.  Cool.
>
> Right after that, I tried running "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Right.wav"
> and that worked.  Previously it didn't, although (as noted above)  that
> same command when specifying the device did (i.e., "aplay
> /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Right.wav -D plughw:0").  So apparently
> installing and/or running audacity fixed something, but not everything.
>
> Another trippy discovery:  I used rpm to verify all the files installed
> with all the alsa* packages and there were absolutely no changes to any of
> them... they're all exactly as they were when first installed.  Since sound
> worked exquisitely when I first installed 7.2 on this box and no alsa files
> have been changed since then, it's hard to find the fault with alsa.
>
> Although aplay is back to working without having to specify the device, I
> still don't get sound out of youtube videos (even though I checked the
> settings and restarted Firefox), and gnome3's System Settings -> Sound
> still lists no devices at all.  These are two major failures.
>
> Does anyone know how to restart audio in systemd?  That might still be
> worth looking into.
>
> Before doing audacity, I tried gnome's mplayer.  Geez, is that a stinky
> pile of code.  Just selecting a directory where a file could be selected
> ended up locking up the app; I had to do a kill to get it off my screen.
> Does that actually work for anyone?  If so, what kind of files or net
> locations does it work for?
>
> Thanks once more for your thoughtful suggestions.
>

​Here ya go! A lovely sysvinit to systemd cheatsheet!

​
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SysVinit_to_Systemd_Cheatsheet

​Well assuming your sound is started at this level. It should be in your
systemd scripts. (I can't help with this as I have not used systemd in a
WHILE). ​



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