Matthew Miller wrote: > On Wed, Dec 09, 2015 at 08:54:56AM -0500, James B. Byrne wrote: <snip> > Working with your employer to fix the "will not allow Fedora into the > premises" part seems like a good start. <snip> Why? Fedora is a development, rapid change distro. I just bugged one of my users yesterday that I'm *GOING* to update and reboot his system, since it hasn't been rebooted in about a year and a third. And we've got cluster members that they won't *let* us update, because it might break the software that's running on them. Around 6.3, I think, one user found an issue with the results from an updated system, and reran a completed job, and the update did *not* give the correct results. We had to downgrade - I forget what packages. And some of these users have jobs that on bare metal (forget VMs, we can't spare the cycles) run one to two *weeks*... and that's on clusters with 512 or over 1100 cores, or the boxes with *two* Tesla cards. Yes, we are talking very serious scientific computing. Absolute stability is what matters. For production machines, I worked out a once a month maintenance window, to update and reboot. In an environment like this, why would we want to do fedora, with its how-many-updates in the last two days? This is why we're on CentOS, which is *stable*. mark _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@xxxxxxxxxx https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos