Re: PHP version not enough for developers

Juan Bernhard <juan@xxxxxxxxxxx> · Thu, 22 Oct 2015 17:40:59 -0300

El 22/10/2015 a las 03:00 p.m., Valeri Galtsev escribió:

On Thu, October 22, 2015 12:49 pm, Johnny Hughes wrote:
On 10/22/2015 11:50 AM, Juan Bernhard wrote:

El 22/10/2015 a las 01:40 p.m., Nux! escribió:
Kai,

It is a reality, but when you look at the RHEL target audience, it's
not exactly hip devs deploying Docker in the cloud.
Big corps, banks and the like have a very slow development cycle and
long term support is absolutely crucial, software needs to run for
years on end without glitches, without interruptions, in a very
predictable manner etc.

For the aforementioned devs I think the best answer are the software
collections, that or just use a different distribution. It is what it
is.

Lucian

Lucian, they also include the newer versions. The case of banks, who
need specially PHP version 5.3, are a slim 0.01% of php users, the rest
of the mortals, like me, who needs a simple webmail like horde running,
have problems because the rest of the world is not developing any more
with php 5.3 compatibility in mind

Saludos, Juan

Correct .. but that is not who RHEL, CentOS, Ubuntu (LTS), or SLES type
distros are for.  That is what Fedora, OpenSUSE, Ubuntu, Debian, Linux
Mint and any other number of "Bleeding Edge" distros are for.  If you
want latest and greatest .. well, then use latest and greatest.  If you
want enterprise, then use CentOS.

And incidentally these 0.01% (even if the number is true) of Enterprise
users pay virtually 100% of RH income (the last is what the brilliant job
of individuals at RH is paid for from). Let's not forget they as well as
us have families to support.

Valeri

Im not saying that they must remove this package, but they also should 
include the newer version. I use freebsd (and its not a toy distro like 
fedora), and you have several ports, php, php54, php55 and php56 to 
choose whatever you need.
Please, dont think that I dont appreciate the RH job on this, some one 
should support a long term version, some applications needs this, but 
very few.
Thats all. I needed to say this, this is the only thing that bother me 
of centos, and its a little thing. The solution is to add another repo, 
but is a petty that they dont include the newer version on the default 
one. Centos its a great distro, dont take this a complain... its just a 
suggestion.

Saludos, Juan

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Nux!
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Kai Schaetzl" <maillists@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: centos@xxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, 22 October, 2015 17:33:33
Subject: Re:  PHP version not enough for developers

Nux! wrote on Thu, 22 Oct 2015 17:27:26 +0100 (BST):

It's irrelevant in this case that PHP 5.3 is EOL. It will continue
to be supported by Red Hat with security patches.

Exactly.
Nevertheless, PHP 5.6 is not "bleeding edge" as someone else said.
5.5 and
5.6 are really state of the art and often necessary to install certain
software packages or for some functionality. The packages provided by
RH
are much too fast outdated or have other problems. It's a reality.

Kai

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