On Wed, October 29, 2014 6:32 pm, Cliff Pratt wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 10:12 AM, Valeri Galtsev
> <galtsev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Wed, October 29, 2014 4:02 pm, Beartooth wrote:
>> > On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 11:44:42 -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>> >
>> >> ... Basically, if one thinks he knows
>> >> more than system vendor, he is just schizophrenic. And we, normal
>> >> people, do give schizophrenics a privilege to be on their own. As we,
>> >> normal people know that if the distro maintainers had to update
>> kernel,
>> >> they had a reason (otherwise, something else breaks). So, we are left
>> >> running _this_ system, even though it's stressful, still not as
>> >> stressful as running "bleeding edge" fedora, right? ;-)
>> >
>> > What? Stressful?? Fedora??? Naaahhh ...
>>
>> I'm sorry, apart from my laptop, I also run servers. And services are
>> supposed to be up 24/7. And a bunch of people are always logged in...
>> You
>> do the math.
>>
>> This is a corner that system administrators have allowed themselves to
>> be
> painted into. It's not a law of nature. Civilized organisations will
> always
> allow a maintenance Window. In the Windows world it is not an issue.
> Servers can be rebooted with much more freedom than in the Linux/Unix
> world.
>
Yes, indeed. Those are blasted Unix sysadmins (Hm, I flatter myself by
thinking of being one too) that push themselves into being too responsible
to their users... No, I don't think Unix admins will start into the
direction of Windows world, sorry. I don't even like Windows world
mentioned as an example for Unix world! (Don't take me too literally,
everybody welcomes good things "other worlds" have...)
Valeri
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Valeri Galtsev
Sr System Administrator
Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics
Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics
University of Chicago
Phone: 773-702-4247
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