On Wed, October 29, 2014 4:18 pm, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
> Am 29.10.2014 um 22:12 schrieb Valeri Galtsev:
>> On Wed, October 29, 2014 4:02 pm, Beartooth wrote:
>>> On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 11:44:42 -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>>>
>>>> ... Basically, if one thinks he knows
>>>> more than system vendor, he is just schizophrenic. And we, normal
>>>> people, do give schizophrenics a privilege to be on their own. As we,
>>>> normal people know that if the distro maintainers had to update
>>>> kernel,
>>>> they had a reason (otherwise, something else breaks). So, we are left
>>>> running _this_ system, even though it's stressful, still not as
>>>> stressful as running "bleeding edge" fedora, right? ;-)
>>>
>>> What? Stressful?? Fedora??? Naaahhh ...
>>
>> I'm sorry, apart from my laptop, I also run servers. And services are
>> supposed to be up 24/7. And a bunch of people are always logged in...
>> You
>> do the math
>
> you where the one calling kernel updates necessity, so just ignore them
> or face the truth - your choice
>
> so what - if you need 24/7 than invest time and money and build up a
> infrsatsructure wehre you can reboot a node for updates without taking
> the services offline or just realize that 15-20 seconds downtime in the
> middle of the night doing way less harm then ignore security updates
>
Yep, that's exactly what I did. I do not feel justified to use
Department's money (for extra hardware), so I invested just my time. And
built servers based on FreeBSD, services run in different jails, etc. So,
you can imagine how much I am hit by the need to reboot into updated Linux
kernel, do you? Note, you will not find Linux kernel running of FreeBSD
box (just teasing ;-)
Valeri
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Valeri Galtsev
Sr System Administrator
Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics
Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics
University of Chicago
Phone: 773-702-4247
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