Em 23-08-2014 19:30, Steve Clark escreveu:
> On 08/22/2014 07:42 PM, Digimer wrote:
>> On 22/08/14 07:07 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
>>> On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 5:46 PM, Digimer <lists@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> To continue your analogy, should car companies have stopped changing
>>>> after the 20s? I mean, the cars then got you were you needed to go, right?
>>> The point is to abstract an interface so you can make changes behind
>>> it without breaking the things already built around it. You can
>>> always add things without breaking anything that already worked for
>>> your community of users. If you didn't care about that yourself,
>>> you'd be recompiling a gentoo weekly instead of being here.
>> To echo John, this is a major release. It's where, when needed, things
>> can change and break backwards compatibility. If a change like this
>> happened as a y-stream release, sure, I'll grab my pitch fork along with
>> you.
>>
>> It's not realistic to expect backwards compatibility to last forever.
>> The sysv init stuff had a good long run, but it was time to change. Now,
>> you're welcome to disagree with me (and the archives are littered
>> already with this argument), but in the end, it changed. A major version
>> was the right place to do it, and now it is done.
>>
>> So this brings me back to my original point... Unless you plan to wage a
>> war against things like Network Manager, systemd or what have you in the
>> faint home of reverting in the next major release, you don't have a lot
>> of viable long term options.
>>
>> Learn the new ways or fade from relevance.
>>
>> I say this without passing judgment on the merits of the new or old
>> ways, simply as a fact of life. Even if you did hold out hope for, say,
>> RHEL 8 to return to the old ways, you will have a hard time avoiding
>> EL7. It will almost certainly be adopted wide-scale and that will
>> provide inertia.
>>
> NetworkManager is the window's world way of doing things for people that don't really understand
> what is going on. I see no use for it immediately disable it. But it pains me to have to take the time.
TBH, I also had some pain on learning it, but now that we also have
nmcli (command line tool), I actually feel it's easier than the old
ifcfg- files. It's better script-able than before.
Marcelo
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