On 20/08/14 15:43, Les Mikesell wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 8:25 AM, Toralf Lund <toralf.lund@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>> On 19/08/14 20:33, John R Pierce wrote:
>>>>>>>> If i should install both java 1.6 and 1.7 , how to do that ?
>>>>>> I don't know whether you*should* do it, not knowing much about your
>>>>>> setup, but assuming CentOS 7, I think you can install both the
>>>>>> java-1.6.0-openjdk and java-1.7.0-openjdk packages.
>>>> I can confirm that. I have both installed. You can configure the default
>>>> using the 'alternatives' system.
>>> is it just me, or does anyone else think that 'alternatives' system is
>>> completely bogus?
>> I've always seen it as designed mostly for system services for which
>> there are several common implementations - like the SMTP server or the
>> printing system. Where I think it makes sense.
> But do you really need _two_ symlinks to get a default in your PATH?
I think the argument is that "configuration" commands shouldn't change
bin directories. Which is right in a way, but maybe this is one of the
cases where practicality should have been chosen over formal correctness.
>
>> It may also be useful to be able to set up a system-wide default for
>> user applications "with alternatives", but I suppose a user override
>> ought to be possible in that case.
>>
>>> what if I have one user that wants JDK6 and another that needs JDK7 ?
>> I guess the "preferred applications" system in the desktop is in a way
>> meant for such cases, but this of course comes across as incomplete, too.
>>
> The concept used for 'software collections' is a more realistic
> approach - but instead of hiding where things land and needing a tool
> to set up use, why not just tell people what to add to their own PATH
> and LD_LIBRARY path to get the version you want. That's almost
> certainly what the developers of every package where they need to have
> test versions does. So why treat the users like they would be too
> dumb for that?
That's a point.
You could also easily develop "config" tools that would make that job
easier for "dumb" users - this might be more productive than maintaining
different solution that essentially have the same effect.
- Toralf
>
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