On 04/29/2014 02:22 PM, Lamar Owen wrote: > On 04/28/2014 06:19 PM, m.roth@xxxxxxxxx wrote: >> Is this an impromptu poll? I think we had one for NM ("it's so much >> better in fedora, it was reworked..."), and everyone else, if it's not >> a laptop, wants it to Go Away. But will they listen to us? > The answer is found in the package set for RHEL7. The time to have > voted has long past, and was in the Fedora train. NM is and will be in > EL7, and it will be there for ten years, if RH keeps to its support > schedule. They won't pull it after the RC. > > At least in EL6 you can in fact yum remove NM without it taking your > whole system away. I haven't tried on EL7. > > But, I also haven't had any issues with NetworkManager in my use cases, > which includes much more than just laptops. I also am aware that others > have had issues, particularly with bridging and bonding. > "The NetworkManager daemon attempts to make networking configuration and operation as pain- less and automatic as possible by managing the primary network connection and other network interfaces, like Ethernet, WiFi, and Mobile Broadband devices. NetworkManager will connect any network device when a connection for that device becomes available, unless that behavior is disabled. Information about networking is exported via a D-Bus interface to any inter- ested application, providing a rich API with which to inspect and control network settings and operation." This may be fine for users that don't know what they are doing or don't have a stable networking environment, but I have found for me it causes nothing but heartache. The first thing I do is disable it. The sad part is that it makes us not understand what is really happening with our systems and when something doesn't work we have no idea where to look. I have been using UNIX/BSD/Linux since the mid eighties and hate where things appear to be going - looking more and more like Windows. my $.02 -- Stephen Clark *NetWolves Managed Services, LLC.* Director of Technology Phone: 813-579-3200 Fax: 813-882-0209 Email: steve.clark@xxxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.netwolves.com _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@xxxxxxxxxx http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos