On Mon, 2005-10-03 at 12:16 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: > On Mon, 2005-10-03 at 12:02, Craig White wrote: > > > Also, I have used (and participated in the development of) the > > > UW product for years and years in a ISP context, and can > > > accurately build and configure it without conscious effort. > > > ;) > > ---- > > yeah - understood > > > > for the record, I haven't found cyrus-imapd to be very difficult to > > configure...and the performance is awesome. But I am also one to go to > > that which I understand rather than learn new tricks sometimes myself. > > > > Really, the only wrinkle in setting up cyrus is to change the MTA to use > > lmtp for local delivery and there are plenty of instructions on how to > > do that in postfix/sendmail/exim. > > And, of course, going to each user that has gone through the trouble > of learning procmail's line-noise syntax and explaining that he'll > have to throw that out and start over with sieve. ---- 1 - there are utilities that will convert procmail scripts to sieve scripts so I am told. 2 - few users are invested in procmail scripts that I have seen 3 - there are such neat auto features of cyrus-imapd that automate script installation on creation of user. 4 - as you point out yourself, procmail's syntax is pretty much impossible for end users and sieve, though slightly less powerful is actually understandable. Put Horde/IMP/Ingo online or websieve online and users can actually create their own server-side filters. Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.