As others have mentioned in this thread, yes I use it as part of a defence in depth strategy, and it's a suitable tool for what it is intended to do. I would not be happy with it going away, especially if doing so broke various tools or introduced a dependancy on a non-base RPM. Devin _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@xxxxxxxxxx http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos