Les Mikesell <lesmikesell@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Heh... Our business is selling streaming data services, > mostly over the internet and from an assortment of > distributed servers, so you can guess how I feel about > that. Huh? Just because I do _not_ set a "default gateway" on a system does _not_ mean they can't reach the Internet. Quite the opposite! If anything, I'm ensuring _how_ they reach and _what_ they reach on the Internet. ;-> No offense, but at this point, I'm starting to question your technical reasoning (let alone Internet security fundamentals ;-). You see only 1 way to do something, and then make assumptions on what is and isn't possible based on them. I have _nothing_ against people who find something that works for them. But I have something against people who think it's the only way, or no other way could possible be better. > So, if yum ever becomes a GNOME app, all our problems are > solved. Sigh ... NetworkManager is _part_ of GNOME, but it sets things up _outside_ of GNOME too. It just offers them to GNOME applications as well -- things like Evolution, Firefox, etc... That's the "greater issue" I'm talking about, so you don't have to go around to every application to set things. > Bottom line is it has to be easier than typing the command > line once with the proxy info on it and subsequently > recalling it from command history or I probably won't change. How about exporting an environmental variable in your /etc/rc.d/rc.local? And atop of that, why not just download updates on 1 system, then redistribute them from it's cache instead -- _after_ you've tested that they work? At this point, I don't know if you're really interested in anything that would make your life easier, you just want the way you know -- you have continually argued to be "best" and nothing else could be -- to work. And until you get that from the CentOS developers on this, or any other issue that seems to be an issue at the upstream provider, we will hear about it on this list. > Actually I seldom even type it the first time - I usually ssh > in after installing a new box and paste the command from > another window on a different machine. Again, do you get paid by the hour? You certainly must. ;-> If I do anything more than a few times, it's scripted. -- Bryan J. Smith | Sent from Yahoo Mail mailto:b.j.smith@xxxxxxxx | (please excuse any http://thebs413.blogspot.com/ | missing headers)