Btw, one more note: taking out all kernel lines, blacklist, and just a *real* basic xorg.conf, in Xorg.0.log, the very first thing I see is X.Org X Server 1.14.3 Release Date: 2013-09-12 [ 56.756] X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 [ 56.756] Build Operating System: 3.10.9-200.fc19.x86_64 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ [ 56.756] Current Operating System: Linux <...> 3.11.6-200.fc19.x86_64 #1 SMP Fri Oct 18 22:34:18 UTC 2013 x86_64 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ So it's obviously not good..... mark _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@xxxxxxxxxx http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos