On 10/3/2013 8:36 AM, John Doe wrote: > There's also the grey area of the "like new", refurbished (by the manufacturer, > or even the vendor), etc... especially on ebay. a LOT of 'refurbish' stuff is refurbed by 3rd parties, neither the OEM or the reseller, and then reinserted into the grey market retail stream. in these cases traceability and accountability can be hard to come by. now, its a fact that something like 80% of product returns are 100% AOK, they were returned for stupid reasons, pilot error, etc. The refurbishers often do little more than a quick functional test, relabel (if you're lucky) and repack. Big discount resellers like Fry's are notorious for stocking this sort of junk (never mind the stuff they repack in-house). -- john r pierce 37N 122W somewhere on the middle of the left coast _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@xxxxxxxxxx http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos