On Sep 13, 2013 7:02 PM, "Les Mikesell" <lesmikesell@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 10:18 AM, natxo asenjo <natxo.asenjo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > The fact you do not understand the documentation does not mean it is > > bad. > > It is pretty good evidence that swapping it as the default because > 'sendmail is hard' was misguided, though. Sendmail works and isn't > particularly hard if you stick to the sendmail.mc settings and > milters. Hardly. Postfix works and isn't particularly hard if you take the time to read and understand the docs. The point is, an mta is something you need to set up. Be it sendmail, exim, postfix or exchange. > >The default postfix in centos does basically nothing. Because there > > is no standard setting for postfix (it is too versatile), e-mail > > administrators are expected to know what they are doing. > > Everyone needs to send mail. Lots of unix/linux programs are > configured to hand off to sendmail whether you do it personally or > not. Postfix comes with enough sendmail emulation to accept that > mail, but then what? then you set it up. Nothing shocking here. This is a normal step in provisioning a host. It's like not specifying an alias for the local root account to send system messages somewhere else where they get read. and the local root account accumulates messages nobody reads. Then you login to run some maintenance and the first thing you see is 20000 unread messages. > > If you do not > > want to spend the time learning that, just use your isp e-mail or one of > > the free and numerous cloud e-mail providers. > > Exactly. But where is the concise how-to to make that work? RTFM :-) It is not that hard: http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html'What delivery method: direct or indirect'. Or http://lmgtfy.com/?q=postfix+how+to+send+mail+through+isp if you think the docs are hard to find, then you get a link to the postfix.org site http://www.postfix.org/SOHO_README.html where you can read 'Enabling SASL authentication in the Postfix SMTP/LMTP client' to relay e-mail to another server with authentication enabled. Very easily explained. Of course you can always find an obscure howto somewhere on the net and then complain that it does not work. I prefer to stick with the official docs. Running an internet facing stmp server is another matter. But running postfix with a smarthost is a piece of cake. -- groet, natxo I mean, simpler than relayhost = yourispmta.domain.tld is hard to find, isn't it? _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@xxxxxxxxxx http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos