The point was, as its very much beta quality, it should be up to the user to ask for it, not have it dropped on them by default. Thats the point Brian was making, the essence of the reply to that was "its not enabled by default because you can turn it off" Which is, as we all know, is a rather absurd statement....which had to be remedied by, yes if you like, a pedantic reply, but a nonetheless valid one... Craig White wrote: >On Mon, 2005-11-21 at 13:56 +0000, Peter Farrow wrote: > > >> >>It is not enabled by default ... unless you mindlessly click through >> >>"Default" means, unless you do something to specify otherwise it will be >>this way, >> >>SElinux IS enabled by default, as doing an install without specifically >>searching for it and changing it will result in it being enabled. >> >>http://isp.webopedia.com/TERM/D/default.html >> >> >> >> >>screens without reading them. >> >> >> >---- >you are being a bit pedantic here. > >Defaults, installation options, etc. are set by upstream provider. > >If someone were to simply click-through the install without >customization, it would indeed be turned on as would a firewall without >holes and no doubt in that event, said unthinking user would benefit >from both. > >Craig > > > >