On Fri, 15 Feb 2013, Les Mikesell wrote: > On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 10:16 PM, <me@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> >>>> What is messing with udev rules supposed to be necessary? >>> >>> You should have a line in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules >>> that associates the MAC address with the eth? name for each of your >>> NICs. Certain things (like removing the file, and maybe some >>> hardware changes) will make it be reconstructed during boot and if you >>> only have one NIC you wouldn't have much chance of it being wrong. >>> But, if the name set there doesn't match the name of the >>> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth* file with the correct MAC >>> address, that interface should not start. >> >> Empirical evidence seems to suggest that if the correct udev entry is missing >> udev will create the entry on its own. >> >> FWIW, the cards I am changing out have 3 ports on them >> and again after doing 15 of these, I have never messed with udev. >> >> I did not even know about this "problem" until I read about it on this list. > >> From what I've seen, the ports on a single card will be detected in > the same order every time. The issue is that if you have some > motherboard NICs and one or more pci cards, the order of detection > of the groups will be a matter of chance. Our servers mostly have > some Broadcomm's on the MB plus a few multi-port Intel cards. If you > remove the udev rules, there is no way to know whether the MB NICs or > the add-ons will be eth0 and eth1. Agreed, I have seen that behavior but I was talking about what happens if you change a card, put the new MAC address in ifcfg-eth* and do nothing with the udev rules. I always use ks to build the machines and the interfaces are pre-defined in the ks setup. > >> Interestingly enough, I just looked at the udev file and it contains not only >> the new mac addresses but also the old ones. >> >> For example the entries for eth1 looks like the following: >> >> # PCI device 0x10ec:0x8167 (r8169) >> SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTR{address}=="00:30:18:a9:e4:ad", ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="eth*", NAME="eth1" >> >> # PCI device 0x8086:0x1076 (e1000) (custom name provided by external tool) >> SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTR{address}=="00:30:18:a4:eb:d0", ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="eth*", NAME="eth1" >> >> I did not put any of these entries in there and I wonder what >> "external tool" is providing the "custom name"? > > Don't know about the tool, but note that this would come out > differently if you added the new card, booted, then shut down and > removed the old card. > >> Is there anyone here who actually knows how this is supposed to work? > > Randomly, I guess... I am beginning to believe that. I guess some more research is in order. Regards, -- Tom me@xxxxxxxxxx Spamtrap address me123@xxxxxxxxxx _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@xxxxxxxxxx http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos