1: SELinux is hereby invited to grow by giving pain to others, not to me. When it's ready for release to the unsuspecting world, let it be released in a 'default on' state then. Not now.
2: The word 'but' *always* indicates a denial of the statement before the 'but'. What's before the 'but' in this case is not just too important to deny, it's an understatement. SELinux is *broken* if it renders otherwise working applications dysfunctional as shipped. I don't mind being asked to volunteer to alpha/beta test software. What's done is to *compel* me to be a SELinux tester, or to disable it. Everybody who is inclined to help SELinux get ready for The Big Time Release, *please* accept my encouragement to do so. Us other miserable grunts who want to beta test something else are best off disabling SELinux as of it's current behavior.
"It's needed for security" meets the "necessary" test, but not the "proper" test, which won't be met until it works without breaking things.
Brian Brunner
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SELinux is going through growing pains, and it's not quite
to the point where I'd call it "user friendly", but
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