Re: MySQL/file system question

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On Mon, 2012-02-13 at 17:06 -0500, Boris Epstein wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 4:58 PM, Adam Tauno Williams <awilliam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > wrote:
> > On Mon, 2012-02-13 at 16:45 -0500, Boris Epstein wrote:
> > > Hello listmates,
> > > I got a rather strange situation that I can't quite make sense of. OK,
> > I've
> > > got a very large data file to sort (hundreds of millions of lines) and I
> > > decided to use MySQL for the purpose. I inserted the stuff into a table
> > > easily enough. Then I decided to sort it and got stuck as it turned out
> > > that MySQL, unless specifically configured to do otherwise, puts
> > temporary
> > > files in /tmp which simply was not sufficiently large. Then I changed
> > that
> > > directory to a partition that had more space (let's call the new temp
> > > driectory /home/big-temp) and now as I am running the query aimed at
> > > sorting the data it seems like space, according to the df, is no longer
> > > being used up under / (which was there /tmp was) but is now being used up
> > > in the right partition ( /home, the large one). Yet /home/big-temp is
> > still
> > > empty!
> > > So how is that possible?
> > Easy.  It is using temporary files the *correct* way.
> > 1. Open file
> > 2. Unlink file
> > 3. Use file
> > 4. Close file
> > This means (a) even if the process abends the resources allocated to the
> > file are released and (b) an external process can't see [or modify] the
> > temporary file.
> > When a file is unlinked it remains 'active' until all references to the
> > file are released - but the daemon is still holding a reference [because
> > it is using the file].
> > There is a file there, but nobody, not even root, can see it.
> > Actually you can; if you look in /proc/{pid#}/fd ...
> I haven't thought of it this way. In fact it matches with this description:
> http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/temporary-files.html
> I can kind of see the advantages; the disadvantages, of course, are that a
> major transaction can not be resumed in case the mysqld process is stopped.

If the process is stopped the transaction cannot be resumed for a myriad
reasons;  loss of the temporary file is a trivial concern.

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Adam Tauno Williams

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