Ryan+list
The link lights are up on the card from very early in the boot process. I
am pretty sure the card is working except it is just unavailable if I try
and start eth1. The system-config-network gui for wireless doesn't
actually let you select the channel to use either. I am actually on
channel 13 which should work OK. As I say, all things currently point to
the /en/ locale not being installed. Can this be retrofitted? I can't
find the files in the CentOS4 packages anywhere.
TIA
John
John Logsdon "Try to make things as simple
Quantex Research Ltd, Manchester UK as possible but not simpler"
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On Tue, 24 May 2005, Ryan wrote:
> is the link/power light on your pcmcia card on when you plug it in, or
> is it stay off?
>
> John Logsdon wrote:
> > Ryan and list
> >
> > pcmcia set 0,1,6 off and 2,3,4,5 on.
> >
> > If I try to restart pcmcia, it obviously complains that pcmcia_core is
> > used by i82365,pcnet_cs,ds as I have another network card plugged in at
> > the moment so I can use the machine (the Tosh Portege 3490CT's other
> > network interface requires plugging the big dongle thing in so I use a
> > card).
> >
> > And while using the standard CentOS update solved the gpg problem,
> >
> > yum upgrade kde (for example) gave an error:
> >
> > Traceback (most recent call last):
> > File "/usr/bin/yum", line 7, in ?
> > yummain.main(sys.argv[1:])
> > File "/usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py", line 34, in main
> > locale.setlocale(locale.LC_ALL, '')
> > File "/usr/lib/python2.3/locale.py", line 381, in setlocale
> > return _setlocale(category, locale)
> > locale.Error: unsupported locale setting
> >
> > which may be entirely unconnected but is an error in the same area as the
> > strace indicated for the wireless card. I can post the strace if needed
> > but it is quite long.
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > John
> >
> > John Logsdon "Try to make things as simple
> > Quantex Research Ltd, Manchester UK as possible but not simpler"
> > j.logsdon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx a.einstein@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > +44(0)161 445 4951/G:+44(0)7717758675 www.quantex-research.com
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 23 May 2005, Ryan wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Does chkconfig have pcmcia in it? If so, what is it set to?
> >>
> >>John Logsdon wrote:
> >>
> >>>That seems a bit better so I can add the 128 bit WEP code. But for some
> >>>reason I still can't activate it. I get:
> >>>
> >>>SIOCSIFFLAGS: Resource temporarily unavailable
> >>>
> >>>which does not point too far.
> >>>
> >>>I have checked that the atmel_cs module is installed (the card is a Belkin
> >>>F5D6020 rev 2).
> >>>
> >>>I have tried an strace and it seems to be looking for a file libc.mo in
> >>>/usr/share/locale/[en.UTF-8|en.utf8|en]/LC_MESSAGES but there is one in
> >>>/usr/share/local/en_GB/LC_MESSAGES and pretty nearly every other locale
> >>>which are all in glibc-common.
> >>>
> >>>I guess this is because I switched from en_US to en_GB when I installed -
> >>>ie I unchecked US English. I don't seem to recall having this problem
> >>>with other machines although this is the first one that I have tried
> >>>to use wireless with...
> >>>
> >>>I tried changing LANG to be en and I get the same result although the
> >>>strace now fails rather earlier.
> >>>
> >>>So it seems at least that I should reinstall en=en_US but I am not
> >>>convinced that this will solve the problem. And where is it anyway? I
> >>>can't see it in any of the CentOS4 rpms - I have been through all 1404 of
> >>>them. It seems to be installed from somewhere when you set up CentOS4.
> >>>Surely I don't have to reinstall?
> >>>
> >>>Clues?
> >>>
> >>>TIA
> >>>
> >>>John
> >>>John Logsdon "Try to make things as simple
> >>>Quantex Research Ltd, Manchester UK as possible but not simpler"
> >>>j.logsdon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx a.einstein@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>+44(0)161 445 4951/G:+44(0)7717758675 www.quantex-research.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>On Mon, 23 May 2005, ryan wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>system-config-network from the commandline brings up a GUI that you can
> >>>>enter in the WEP key for. You do not need to upgrade to KDE 3.4 for this.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>What do people recommend?
> >>>>
> >>>>My recommendation is to use a different included GUI tool than kwifi
> >>>>(system-config-network). Instructions are here:
> >>>>http://www.centos.org/docs/4/html/rhel-sag-en-4/s1-network-config-wireless.html
> >>>>
> >>>>You can also edit /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 (or whatever
> >>>>your LAN card is) directly, but if you have never done this before, I'd say
> >>>>use the GUI.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>>From: "John Logsdon" <j.logsdon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>To: "CentOS mailing list" <centos@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 4:25 AM
> >>>>Subject: Re: CentOS4, KDE3.3 and 128 WEP
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Folks
> >>>>>
> >>>>>My concern is not so much just how good or bad WEP is - and I agree that
> >>>>>it is much better to use ssh or a vpn tunnel. Until 802.11i is fully
> >>>>>implemented, standard wireless is always going to be very easy to hack by
> >>>>>a sniffing geekster.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>The problem is that there are quite a lot other machines on the network
> >>>>>that have been configured with WEP128. I don't use DHCP and I have MAC
> >>>>>filtering enabled so that is some protection. Unconfiguring all those
> >>>>>machines will be a pain and as some of them are WinDroze XPoor, almost
> >>>>>certainly to fall over.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>OK - maybe the solution is to upgrade to KDE3.4. There are comments about
> >>>>>128 WEP in the 3.4 kdenetwork package. And is KDE3.4 already stable
> >>>>>enough to be included? What do people recommend? Has anyone upgraded to
> >>>>>3.4?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Another issue is where is the gpg public key repository for CentOS4?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>So my problem remains. At the moment I am using a regular wired
> >>>>>connection but that means that the garden is out of bounds and it is nice
> >>>>>and sunny today here in Manchester ... :-)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Best wishes
> >>>>>
> >>>>>John
> >>>>>
> >>>>>John Logsdon "Try to make things as simple
> >>>>>Quantex Research Ltd, Manchester UK as possible but not simpler"
> >>>>>j.logsdon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx a.einstein@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>+44(0)161 445 4951/G:+44(0)7717758675 www.quantex-research.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>On Sun, 22 May 2005, Ryan wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>I disagree with this assessment.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>WPA-PSK is not much more secure than 128-bit WEP, since its passphrases
> >>>>>>vulnerable to common dictionary attacks. Worse, linux has poor WPA
> >>>>>>support - not every wifi card supported by linux has WPA support.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Also, many non-computer devices (wireless webcams, etc) only have WEP as
> >>>>>>an option.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Use system-config-network , not kwifi, and you should be able to use WEP
> >>>>>>with no problem. Also, consider turning OFF DHCP, turning the AP off
> >>>>>>when you aren't using it, and enabling MAC filtering.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>If you are really concerned about security, consider using an SSH or VPN
> >>>>>>tunnel to encrypt data between laptops and a wired router/server.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>For some information on WPA-PSK weaknesses:
> >>>>>>http://wifinetnews.com/archives/002452.html
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>system-config-network requires you enter in "0x" bbefore the key.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Maciej Zenczykowski wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>You can skip wep128 or wep64 or any other wep for that matter,
> >>>>>>>currently a standard notebook with a supported wireless card running
> >>>>
> >>>>linux
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>can passively break through wep64/wep128 encryption within 10-30
> >>>>>>>minutes, switching to active mode can break through the encryption
> >>>>>>>within 3-5 minutes. Simply put, encryption of the WEP kind is no
> >>>>
> >>>>longer
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>worth the bother.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Just look around on google, he's a quote I found:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Department: Here's a demo of the FBI, using commonly available and
> >>>>
> >>>>openly
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>documented hardware & software to crack WEP 128-bit security in three
> >>>>>>>minutes.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>http://www.tomsnetworking.com/Sections-article111-page1.php
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>The needed utilites can be freely downloaded of the internet.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Cheers,
> >>>>>>>MaZe.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>On Sun, 22 May 2005, John Logsdon wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>CentOS4 standard installation.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>I see that KwifiManager doesn't support 128 bit WEP which I need for
> >>>>>>>>other
> >>>>>>>>machines on the network, which is a bit of a blow - and rather
> >>>>
> >>>>surprising
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>really as security should be quite a consideration on an enterprise
> >>>>
> >>>>level
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>system (NB RH!).
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Is there a workaround? An alternative way of configuring my Belkin
> >>>>>>>>F5D6020 ver 2 card? eg a cvs download that I can get and copy via a
> >>>>>>>>stick? Or how to do it manually? I have tried regressing kdenetwork
> >>>>
> >>>>but
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>that doesn't include kwifimanager at all.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Ideas?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>TIA
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>John
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>John Logsdon "Try to make things as
> >>>>
> >>>>simple
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>Quantex Research Ltd, Manchester UK as possible but not
> >>>>
> >>>>simpler"
> >>>>
> >>>>
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> >>>>>>>>+44(0)161 445 4951/G:+44(0)7717758675 www.quantex-research.com
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