On Mon, 2005-05-23 at 22:41, Bryan J. Smith wrote: > On Mon, 2005-05-23 at 11:38 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: > > I take it you didn't run CIPE vpn's among any of those 30 machines or > > you'd still be on FC1. > > Actually, Fedora Core 2 wasn't the only distro that dropped it. > There were a lot of issues with CIPE and kernel 2.6 -- many that were > not solved in the first 6 months of 2.6's release, by the time Fedora > Core 2 came out. The first half-way reliable patches were for 2.6.6, > which was a month after about Fedora Core 2 came out (with 2.6.5). Yes, I know the history - I just have a knee-jerk reaction when someone says they upgrade frequently and never have problems. It really just means they weren't using any of the features that changed or went away. > Fedora Core 2 was definitely a "revolutionary" .0, and things break, and > Fedora Core 3 was more of an "evolutionary" .1 based on changes done in > Fedora Core 2. So what you're seeing is _no_different_ than typical Red > Hat Linux .0 release before. People today are still bitching about the > GLibC 2.0 change of Red Hat Linux 5.0, and the forced ANSI C++ > compliance with the adoption of GCC 2.96/3.0 in Red Hat Linux 7. Except that it still isn't fixed now that it easily could be. If you want CIPE in Fedora >1 or Centos 4, you have to recompile the kernel to make it work. OpenVPN is probably better these days but that's not included either and unlike a lot of other packages, for this one you have to coordinate any changes across locations. -- Les Mikesell lesmikesell@xxxxxxxxx