That seems a bit better so I can add the 128 bit WEP code. But for some reason I still can't activate it. I get: SIOCSIFFLAGS: Resource temporarily unavailable which does not point too far. I have checked that the atmel_cs module is installed (the card is a Belkin F5D6020 rev 2). I have tried an strace and it seems to be looking for a file libc.mo in /usr/share/locale/[en.UTF-8|en.utf8|en]/LC_MESSAGES but there is one in /usr/share/local/en_GB/LC_MESSAGES and pretty nearly every other locale which are all in glibc-common. I guess this is because I switched from en_US to en_GB when I installed - ie I unchecked US English. I don't seem to recall having this problem with other machines although this is the first one that I have tried to use wireless with... I tried changing LANG to be en and I get the same result although the strace now fails rather earlier. So it seems at least that I should reinstall en=en_US but I am not convinced that this will solve the problem. And where is it anyway? I can't see it in any of the CentOS4 rpms - I have been through all 1404 of them. It seems to be installed from somewhere when you set up CentOS4. Surely I don't have to reinstall? Clues? TIA John John Logsdon "Try to make things as simple Quantex Research Ltd, Manchester UK as possible but not simpler" j.logsdon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx a.einstein@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx +44(0)161 445 4951/G:+44(0)7717758675 www.quantex-research.com On Mon, 23 May 2005, ryan wrote: > system-config-network from the commandline brings up a GUI that you can > enter in the WEP key for. You do not need to upgrade to KDE 3.4 for this. > > >What do people recommend? > > My recommendation is to use a different included GUI tool than kwifi > (system-config-network). Instructions are here: > http://www.centos.org/docs/4/html/rhel-sag-en-4/s1-network-config-wireless.html > > You can also edit /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 (or whatever > your LAN card is) directly, but if you have never done this before, I'd say > use the GUI. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Logsdon" <j.logsdon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: "CentOS mailing list" <centos@xxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 4:25 AM > Subject: Re: CentOS4, KDE3.3 and 128 WEP > > > > Folks > > > > My concern is not so much just how good or bad WEP is - and I agree that > > it is much better to use ssh or a vpn tunnel. Until 802.11i is fully > > implemented, standard wireless is always going to be very easy to hack by > > a sniffing geekster. > > > > The problem is that there are quite a lot other machines on the network > > that have been configured with WEP128. I don't use DHCP and I have MAC > > filtering enabled so that is some protection. Unconfiguring all those > > machines will be a pain and as some of them are WinDroze XPoor, almost > > certainly to fall over. > > > > OK - maybe the solution is to upgrade to KDE3.4. There are comments about > > 128 WEP in the 3.4 kdenetwork package. And is KDE3.4 already stable > > enough to be included? What do people recommend? Has anyone upgraded to > > 3.4? > > > > Another issue is where is the gpg public key repository for CentOS4? > > > > So my problem remains. At the moment I am using a regular wired > > connection but that means that the garden is out of bounds and it is nice > > and sunny today here in Manchester ... :-) > > > > Best wishes > > > > John > > > > John Logsdon "Try to make things as simple > > Quantex Research Ltd, Manchester UK as possible but not simpler" > > j.logsdon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx a.einstein@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > +44(0)161 445 4951/G:+44(0)7717758675 www.quantex-research.com > > > > > > On Sun, 22 May 2005, Ryan wrote: > > > > > I disagree with this assessment. > > > > > > WPA-PSK is not much more secure than 128-bit WEP, since its passphrases > > > vulnerable to common dictionary attacks. Worse, linux has poor WPA > > > support - not every wifi card supported by linux has WPA support. > > > > > > Also, many non-computer devices (wireless webcams, etc) only have WEP as > > > an option. > > > > > > Use system-config-network , not kwifi, and you should be able to use WEP > > > with no problem. Also, consider turning OFF DHCP, turning the AP off > > > when you aren't using it, and enabling MAC filtering. > > > > > > If you are really concerned about security, consider using an SSH or VPN > > > tunnel to encrypt data between laptops and a wired router/server. > > > > > > For some information on WPA-PSK weaknesses: > > > http://wifinetnews.com/archives/002452.html > > > > > > > > > system-config-network requires you enter in "0x" bbefore the key. > > > > > > > > > Maciej Zenczykowski wrote: > > > > You can skip wep128 or wep64 or any other wep for that matter, > > > > currently a standard notebook with a supported wireless card running > linux > > > > can passively break through wep64/wep128 encryption within 10-30 > > > > minutes, switching to active mode can break through the encryption > > > > within 3-5 minutes. Simply put, encryption of the WEP kind is no > longer > > > > worth the bother. > > > > > > > > Just look around on google, he's a quote I found: > > > > > > > > Department: Here's a demo of the FBI, using commonly available and > openly > > > > documented hardware & software to crack WEP 128-bit security in three > > > > minutes. > > > > > > > > http://www.tomsnetworking.com/Sections-article111-page1.php > > > > > > > > The needed utilites can be freely downloaded of the internet. > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > MaZe. > > > > > > > > On Sun, 22 May 2005, John Logsdon wrote: > > > > > > > >> CentOS4 standard installation. > > > >> > > > >> I see that KwifiManager doesn't support 128 bit WEP which I need for > > > >> other > > > >> machines on the network, which is a bit of a blow - and rather > surprising > > > >> really as security should be quite a consideration on an enterprise > level > > > >> system (NB RH!). > > > >> > > > >> Is there a workaround? An alternative way of configuring my Belkin > > > >> F5D6020 ver 2 card? eg a cvs download that I can get and copy via a > > > >> stick? Or how to do it manually? I have tried regressing kdenetwork > but > > > >> that doesn't include kwifimanager at all. > > > >> > > > >> Ideas? > > > >> > > > >> TIA > > > >> > > > >> John > > > >> > > > >> John Logsdon "Try to make things as > simple > > > >> Quantex Research Ltd, Manchester UK as possible but not > simpler" > > > >> j.logsdon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx a.einstein@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > >> +44(0)161 445 4951/G:+44(0)7717758675 www.quantex-research.com > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > >> CentOS mailing list > > > >> CentOS@xxxxxxxxxx > > > >> http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > > > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > CentOS mailing list > > > > CentOS@xxxxxxxxxx > > > > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > CentOS mailing list > > > CentOS@xxxxxxxxxx > > > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > CentOS mailing list > > CentOS@xxxxxxxxxx > > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > > > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@xxxxxxxxxx > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >