On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
> Am 09.12.2011 00:53, schrieb Cliff Pratt:
>> On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 10:07 AM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 08.12.2011 22:04, schrieb Les Mikesell:
>>>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 08.12.2011 21:08, schrieb Cliff Pratt:
>>>>>> It's a good idea NOT to put stuff in /etc/crontab and NOT to change
>>>>>> the existing members of /etc/cron.d. It is a good idea NOT to change
>>>>>> root's crontab. Any of these may get overwritten by maintenance.
>>>>>
>>>>> /etc/crontab will NEVER get overwritten
>>>>> to make it clear: NEVER EVER
>>>>>
>>>>> fedora did not overwrite any crontab from FC5 to F15 now because
>>>>> rpm-packages mark such configurations so the new versions get installed
>>>>> as .rpmnew
>>>>
>>>> Which means the changes those versions would like to have made won't
>>>> take effect. So it is still best to avoid editing it yourself if you
>>>> can put your local jobs in one of the other possible places.
>>>
>>> which means updates do not randomly change configurations and this
>>> is good so since it is your job as admin to look if the rpmnew contains
>>> anything which is interesting for you and if not let your working
>>> configuration in peace
>>>
>> There should be no need to look at the .rpmnew files if you have done
>> your job as admin properly.
>
> why are radnom people try to tell me how i have to do my job
> without knowing anyting about how i work?
>
Touchy.
>
> no there is no need on the production machine becuase all preparing
> happens on a dedicated environment with where local and caching repos
> and build-environment is available and from where all TESTED updates
> are deployed
>
Good for you.
>
> i do my job properly in making sure that no dumb change
> of any upstream maintainer is touching a configuration
> of relevant services
>
Good.
>
> so what will you tell me after > 200 ONLINE-dist-upgrades
> in the last view years on all sort of servers?
>
I'd say that I been in the business for a long long time and I can
still learn from other people.
Cheers,
Cliff
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