Um, um, er... I didn't have java on my machine (CentOS 6, 64-bit). I went to install openjdk; not sure of the correct package name, I did a yum list \*jdk\*... and among the things I saw was java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin. I did a yum install, and it installed openjdk, and a few other packages. I think looked at my *running* version of firefox, and the add-ons showed icedtea was installed and enabled. I went to a java test site... and it worked. No ifs, ands, or buts, and ff didn't crash. Thanks to the icedtea folks! mark _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@xxxxxxxxxx http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos