On 11/10/2011 07:40 PM, Craig White wrote: > On Thu, 2011-11-10 at 14:30 -0500, Lamar Owen wrote: >> On Thursday, November 10, 2011 02:20:25 PM Bob Hoffman wrote: >>> The newer stuff is cool, but it lacks the polish of a ready to go >>> system. Centos has the polish, but lacks the new stuff. >>> sigh. >> >> And right there is the core (or maybe it's 'sore') point to all of this; it really depends on what you need and how much work you have to do to make it fit your needs. And then keeping up with your needs, as they inevitably change. >> >> CentOS is what it is: as close as possible to upstream EL without being upstream EL. Nothing more, nothing less, and bug-for-bug compatible. If that's not what you need, then CentOS won't meet your need. > ---- > close? > > May 19, 2011 (RH 6.1) > > I thought the term 'close' only applied to horseshoes and hand grenades. > > Given the track record for CentOS for v 6, it's pretty clear that > installing it means that you are likely to have deployed servers that > will lag for months without security updates and it's awful easy to set > up iptables ;-) I'm not saying this to disparage the developers > because I'm sure that they're doing the best that they can but I can't > tell my friends/clients/employer/etc. that I can recommend using CentOS > knowing the struggles they are having getting out releases & updates. > This is just no longer true Craig ... you obviously have not been looking at or using the CR for CentOS-6. We have also now totally automated many parts of the QA system to test packages. http://wiki.centos.org/QaWiki/AutomatedTests/WritingTests/t_functional Also, I would like an audit of your servers that you manage to see how often you install those security updates that ARE available. How fast are you pushing all the updates that you are getting SO QUICKLY with these other OS's? I can only tell you that we are cranking out packages at a very quick pace now, and that they are also now being tested much better and much faster than before. We are also asking for "the community" to help us be designing tests that can be used in t_functional ... have YOU designed any tests to ensure that a problem that you have had in the past does not sneak in anymore and put it in t_functional ... or are you just here to continually complain and run down our OS?
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