Josh Miller wrote: > On 08/11/2011 11:12 AM, m.roth@xxxxxxxxx wrote: >> Josh Miller wrote: >>> In fact, that is one of the single most effective mechanisms used to >>> combat spam, in my experience and will cut down the amount accepted at >>> the gateway(s) by up to 95%. >> >> I'm not sure who you're answering or agreeing with, but my point is >> still that 90% of everybody blocked has no clue whatever about what >> to do about it, and esp. the people with infected systems. A standard >> channel *to* an ISP for this kind of technical issue - either the >> ISP notifying the spammer that their machine needs to be cleaned >> before they'll be allowed back online, or between ISP, would do <snip> >> *I* see from that is that people simply drop, or change services, and >> nothing gets fixed. >> <snip> > Also, where I'm from (greater Seattle area even), you don't have much > choice as far as ISPs go, so changing service providers is not a big > option. Yup. That's true most places (competition, *hah*). And all the major ISP's I've dealt with since the conglomeration in Chicago of ISP's about 11 years ago have been the same: common carrier, but not understanding (as I think of it) that spam is the same as problem noise on the line. mark _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@xxxxxxxxxx http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos