on 5/5/2011 1:55 PM Dave Stevens spake the following: > Hello All, > > I want to ask about CentOS and money. Please do not start some kind of > shitstorm over this, it isn't productive. > > I have just been looking at archive.org to see when the paypal option went > missing from the donate menu at centos.org. I can't pin it down, but it was > there on October 16, 2010 and isn't now, so that's the information I have on > that point. > > There was a great deal of argy-bargy on this list when the 5.6 update was slow > arriving. I don't want to go there, I was happy to see it when it arrived, as > I always am when there's an update. > > The impression I got was that the maintainers and packagers were working as > hard as they could and were tetchy about being nagged, being unable to do > more. Fair enough, but we need not adopt the status quo entirely. > > The donate menu on the web site has this to say, (and more) ... > > "The CentOS team would like to remind you that the primary means of > substaining the development of CentOS is via contributions by CentOS users. > > CentOS is now, and will continue to be totally free; however, it takes money > and resources to make CentOS available. > > If you are able, please consider donating to the CentOS Project. Donations of > promo material, public mirrors and dedicated servers are all vital to our > contined operations. > > Monetary > > CentOS is currently reviewing our cash donation program. In the mean time we > are not accepting any financial donations. We do appreciate though, if you > want to - for example - help out with promo material. See our Wiki page on > donations for more up to date information." > > So referring as directed to the wiki page shows: > > "Resource and financial needs > > The CentOS Project is entirely based on the efforts of volunteers. We rely on > contributions and donations from CentOS users as well, for: > > * Logistics related to promotion and infrastructure > * Specific hardware needs > * Bandwidth and connectivity > * Promotion material at conferences and exhibitions > * Organizing CentOS-related events " > > I don't see anything there about money except in the first line and I'm really > curious why. Internally it is clear that if the team hasn't put in place some > cash donation basis probably the capacity isn't there. But the current team > need not go into areas where they have no time or (perhaps) expertise. There > are lots of capable money folks in the free software world who can and do > accept donations and deal with administrative infrastructure and channel > support to projects. So the name apache-friends is suggestive. Without > necessarily using that model I wonder why there isn't a CentOS Friends group > or fund to which I and others can donate. I can't help but believe that if > there were, say, a couple of paid staff with CentOS as the day job, things > would not be so burdensome to the devs we have now and maybe we could build on > that. > > For my part, I installed CentOS on some machines I administer for non-profit > groups in Canada. The lack of licencing fees makes a big difference to them, > non-profits groups are perpetuually long on brains and short on cash. But even > so I think we could cough up, say, ten bucks a year per machine to put some > payback into CentOS. Given general widespread goodwill this might be > multiplied significantly. > > I have not seen this discussed on the list and would be happy to know if there > is some reason it hasn't been attempted. > > Please let me repeat, this is meant as a constructive suggestion, there is no > problem with the product, quite the reverse. > > Comments? > > Dave > > > > Here is a bit of why the donation button went away (It was back in 2009 or so)... http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-10300222-92.html http://www.osnews.com/comments/21921 _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@xxxxxxxxxx http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos