Re: Centos 6 Update?

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On 04/20/2011 09:18 AM, Brian Mathis wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 6:01 AM, Ian Murray <murrayie@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Okay, maybe that was an assumption too far in regards to "respect".
>>
>> Perhaps not so one-sided if he had received an email reply from the devs....
>> assuming he did indeed send one to KB. To be fair, it does seem pretty lifted
>> from the list, which is a point of view that not everyone agrees with. He should
>> really have sent the article to the devs and offered them a chance respond to
>> his comments and have those worked into the article. I assume that wasn't done.
> 
> 
> No.  News reporting is about picking up and distilling the sentiment
> of what's going on.  The article has done that.  It doesn't have to be
> a complete factual research project with totally "fair and balanced"
> chances for everyone to have their say.  If the Devs had responded,
> that would have been nice, but not a requirement.
> 
> 
>> As for the other side of the point of view, please refer to JH's response to me
>> comment. I'll paraphrase for you: You can still take it or leave it.
> 
> 
> It doesn't matter how many times you say it, it's still wrong.  JH's
> responses are absolutely out of line and if I were KB I would be
> seriously sitting down with him to have a chat about his attitude.  He
> doesn't seem to realize that telling people to f*ck off is not
> acceptable behavior, no matter who you are or what you do.
> 
> It doesn't matter if you provide something "for free", because it's
> not free.  Everyone who uses CentOS invests significant time and
> energy into it.  Choosing CentOS was based on claims on the web site,
> and the promise of an open alternative to Redhat, not "an open
> alternative when we get around to it, and by the way, just be happy we
> deem it worthy to give you anything at all."
> 
> The attitudes against any user who has a question about releases
> significantly undermines the project and is a slap in the face to
> everyone who has chosen to support and proselytize CentOS throughout
> the years.  The idea that the Devs are the only ones who do any "real"
> work on the project is complete BS.  It was the *users* who put all
> the hard work into implementing CentOS and building up the usage
> numbers, not JH and the CentOS project Devs.
> 
> Also, based on this post where JH throws around the numbers [1], one
> can only assume that the real reason behind keeping the dev process
> closed is to maintain the egos of those on the inside -- since all
> avenues of logic seem to have been exhausted.

For the record, I brought KB into this project ... not the other way around.



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