On Mar 8, 2011, at 12:25 PM, John Hodrien <J.H.Hodrien@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Tue, 8 Mar 2011, Ross Walker wrote: > >> Well on my local disk I don't cache the data of tens or hundreds of clients >> and a server can have a memory fault and oops just as easily as any client. >> >> Also I believe it doesn't sync every single write (unless mounted on the >> client sync which is only for special cases and not what I am talking about) >> only when the client issues a sync or when the file is closed. The client is >> free to use async io if it wants, but the server SHOULD respect the clients >> wishes for synchronous io. >> >> If you set the server 'async' then all io is async whether the client wants >> it or not. > > I think you're right that this is how it should work, I'm just not entirely > sure that's actually generally the case (whether that's because typical > applications try to do sync writes or if it's for other reasons, I don't > know). As always YMMV, but on the whole it's how it works. ESX is an exception, it does O_FSYNC on each write cause it needs to know for certain that each completed. > Figures for just changing the server to sync, everything else identical. > Client does not have 'sync' set as a mount option. Both attached to the same > gigabit switch (so favouring sync as far as you reasonably could with > gigabit): > > sync;time (dd if=/dev/zero of=testfile bs=1M count=10000;sync) > > async: 78.8MB/sec > sync: 65.4MB/sec > > That seems like a big enough performance hit to me to at least consider the > merits of running async. Yes, disabling the safety feature will make it run faster. Just as disabling the safety on a gun will make it faster in a draw. > That said, running dd with oflag=direct appears to bring the performance up to > async levels: > > oflag=direct with sync nfs export: 81.5 MB/s > oflag=direct with async nfs export: 87.4 MB/s > > But if you've not got control over how your application writes out to disk, > that's no help. Most apps unfortunately don't allow one to configure how it handles io reads/writes, so you're stuck with how it behaves. A good sized battery backed write-back cache will often negate the O_FSYNC penalty. -Ross _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@xxxxxxxxxx http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos