Jonathan wrote: > anyone had luck gettin' dspam up and rollin' on 4.x? dag has no pkgs, > and I kept running into odd dependencies, including mysqld packages > that aren't even in 4.x. ;-( > > anyone had better luck? > You may want to reconsider. I had been using dspam for about a year and sometime in the early 2004 the bloat really started to get out of hand and maintaining it on a production machine became untenable for me. I switched to CRM114 (you can find it on sourceforge) and revelled in the simplicity of installation, ease of maintenance/upgrades and lack of bloat. It seems to work at least as well as Dspam in my environment so you might want to give it a try before you start installing databases you don't want or need, etc. Cheers, C -- Chris Mauritz chrism@xxxxxxxxx VP & Chief Technology Officer Independent Music Network http://www.imntv.com