Peter, I've been able to find the K8D Master 3 in-stock but *not* the K8D Master 3 -133 that I also see on MSI's web site. Near as I can tell the only difference is the addition of a 64/133 slot. Which are you running? Peter Farrow wrote: > I had trouble with Tyan boards and BIOS revisions not getting Processor > numbers and speeds correct. > We also had early life failures with Asus boards, and since switched to > MSI, we now use the MSI 9161 > > K8D Master 3 > http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/server/svr/pro_svr_detail.php?UID=560 > > > without any problems.. >