On Wednesday 28 December 2005 15:35, Dave wrote:
> On 12/27/05, Chris Mauritz <chrism@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >without out a lot of mucky muck on a Centos3 system? I looked at Zope
> > >but it needs a newer Python, Midgaard looks likes it's geared towards
> > We've had rather good luck with plone (which uses zope). And you're
> > right, it's a pain in the ass to install. But things have been rather
> > uneventful after the initial PITA install was over. In our case, we
> > needed something that played nice with English/Japanese/Chinese so our
> > choices were somewhat limited.
> Thats one of the first ones I started to look at and really wanted to
> install. There is an RPM on dag for plone, but there isn't one for
While I typically use the mantra 'install from RPM, install from RPM, lather,
rinse, repeat' I do not apply that to Plone/Zope. And, yes, I have direct
experience with both; visit www.pari.edu. I just migrated to Plone 2.1.1
from 2.0.5. Being able to tar the whole kit and kaboodle up, move to another
machine, perform the Zope and Plone upgrades in-tree, and then do the
migration was killer, and I could not have done this with an RPM install
(since I simply tarred the tree back up and placed on the production server
and had the new Plone up in less than a minute, once I had verified all
content under the migrated version). Note that a 2.0.5 to 2.1.1 migration is
not trivial, and can be downright painful.
This and OpenACS are two packages I always install from source in a tarball
fashion; they have too many unique dependencies (OpenACS has a slew of them,
and is much more difficult than Plone to get up and running).
When the Plone/Zope RPM's quality is improved, I may change my mind.
On another note, Plone 2.1.1 runs extremely well on CentOS 4, which is what is
behind www.pari.edu.
But you do have to have Python 2.3.4 or greater. Which means, thanks to all
the dependencies in CentOS 3 on an earlier version, you are talking about a
new version of Python, too.
My gut feel is that you can have a CentOS 4 machine up and running, full
migrated and with Plone installed, before you can have a from-source
Python/Zope/Plone stack up and running on CentOS 3. And the CentOS 4 install
buys you more than just the newer Python, in my experience.
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Lamar Owen
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